Birdie General Thread: The Banana Bogey Brawler

Evil_Canadian · December 28, 2015, 2:19pm

Only has armour in trigger, and then only for a few frames. However yes if you are in in trigger, at least that is on demand armour which he struggles with otherwise.

Super_Sonic · December 28, 2015, 3:26pm

Angerus:

Since the wait for SFV is driving me nuts, I decided to do a little write-up on Laura. It’s not exactly in-depth, but it does cover the general options you can do on her which hopefully still work in later versions.

universal stuff vs Laura
Empty jumping over her fireball will get yourself hit. The only way to get rid of it is by hitting her. Now, the only jump attack that can actually hit Laura while the fireball is on screen is j.MK.
That attack hits the deepest out of all Birdie’s buttons and is his only option when jumping over a fireball and hit a cowering, crouching Laura.

http://i.imgur.com/XpDuKJ9.gif

Because her fireballs are very high, you can’t use bull revenger to go over them and punish in time.
Instead you could use normals that go far and doesn’t get hit when trying to go under it. c.MK and sweep work for this.
Her fireball is also punishable on reaction by Bullhorn, dolphin dive (good for this mu) and hanging chain (if she charges it).
You can’t use your armor options (ex bullhorn, ex bullhead or f+HP) because they all have only 1 hit of armor and Laura obviously does multiple hits.
If it lags and u are unable to deal with her fullscreen fireball charges, then you can play even more lame by going fullscreen yourself and tossing cans edit and eating donuts.
it’s almost the same gameplan as her, but you get to actually force her to come to you instead if there’s time and the life difference isn’t too great.

Does hitting her while there is a fireball on the screen negate the fireball?

Train130 · December 28, 2015, 4:02pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlv0BMJintI

new combo video by TeaMandem

Angerus · December 28, 2015, 4:52pm

Hm, this combo video is actually Birdie from beta 2.
The damage values don’t match up and you can’t combo from c.HP into L or M hanging chain. Now you need to be point blank so H chain can hit.

Yes

Yea only in Vtrigger, but it has armor for more than a few frames however. At least 11 frames or so since the armor starts from the very first frame and stays until the 2nd hit.

Angerus · December 28, 2015, 5:34pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMy5fp_QYw

Some changes I spotted in this build:

sHP has more active frames again and has its anti air hitboxes back like in beta 2 (in beta 3, you couldn’t catch people who jump away anymore, but now u can again)
sHP is a crush counter again
sMP seems plus on block again

Mr.PaVy-RD · December 28, 2015, 5:56pm

Are you sure?

Angerus · December 28, 2015, 6:01pm

Only about s.HP.
Not sure about sMP being plus on block again, though

snipeclips · December 29, 2015, 2:28am

It’s not new.

Train130 · December 29, 2015, 2:37am

so st.hk is not CC anymore ?

Angerus · December 29, 2015, 2:55am

st.HK is still a CC

truendymion · December 29, 2015, 7:39am

I was having a lot of fun cancelling a max range st.MP into Hanging Chain and then looking at the opponents reactions. If they start jumping I’ll cancel into anti-air Hanging Chain, if they start turtling up I’ll cancel into Bull Revenger.
I love the change to counter hit sweeps, now Birdie can get some legit dirty setups with bananas and cans muahahaha!

metrokard · December 29, 2015, 9:36am

his standing fp being a crush counter is really good.

PSYCH0J0SH · December 30, 2015, 8:31am

My fellow Birdies, we must unite to destroy all the Necallis in the world. Let us make a pact.

If you lose to a Necalli as Birdie, he’d better be the best Necalli player in the world or you have brought intense shame to the Big Bird Society.

Alexisdabomb · December 30, 2015, 11:47pm

I like EX Bullhorn a little more because you can pop V Trigger and follow up with LP Bullhead for about 35% damage.

Angerus · December 30, 2015, 11:55pm

EX Bullhead doesn’t have armor without Vtrigger anyways so that wouldn’t be an option compared to EX Bullhorn.
It wasn’t clear, but the discussion was about when you already have Vtrigger active so you can use EX Bullhead’s armor from my Laura post.

Alexisdabomb · December 31, 2015, 12:06am

I wouldn’t be surprised if they just removed EX Bullhead having armor in v trigger mode. Seems superfluous.

gilley · January 3, 2016, 12:40pm

I’m not sure what the properties of Birdie’s EX killing head was in the older betas, but I think I’ve figured out what the properties are on it in beta3. It has the most range and it’s throw invincible. It’s not throw invincible on the very first frame though. I was thrown out of it one time, I could hear the swish sound from the EX startup. I’m consistently throwing opponents out of their throw animation if I do it early enough. I tested against zangief’s RBG, and normal throws. It’s probably throw invincible from frames 2-5.

af0 · January 3, 2016, 1:21pm

FACEPALM

Taken from http://watissf.dantarion.com/sf5/boxdox/#cbt1/BRD-2HP-12

Muttonman · January 3, 2016, 1:44pm

Oh god

HE ATE SAKURA!

Angerus · January 3, 2016, 7:04pm

If u look at the hitboxes (that are extremely accurate) You can tell how interesting Birdie’s overhead is as an anti air! I was very surprised when I caught so many people out of the air by it.
It works at ranges where c.MP would whiff, it’s 3 frames active as an AA and has great hitboxes.

http://i.imgur.com/L9nwWm0.gif

http://i.imgur.com/YfMIjwa.png?1

Btw @af0 , if you want to check beta 3 Birdie, you’ll need to select CB4.
If you select ‘Birdie’ you’re actually looking at his beta 1 hitboxes.

Spoiler

http://watissf.dantarion.com/sf5/boxdox/#cbt3_steam_megapak/CB4-6HK-6

Yea, it’s pretty great from the hitboxes alone, but sadly it’s soooo slow hahaha.