I have a better question: What does God need with a starship?
Oh, SRK.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/women-war-and-peace/news/new-reports-of-rape-and-sexual-abuse-under-qaddafi/
Do yourself a favor and stop considering Russia Today to be a source which is even vaguely impartial.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2008/aug/12/russiantvreporterresignsaf
They’re interests are making Russia look better than it is, and making America look worse than it is- and probably not in that order.
People are always funny about this sort of thing; I’m sure 5 years ago there was someone here at SRK saying the same thing, but implying that we should invade Libya as an example of a country that’s ruled by an oppressive dictator.
…you should also consider that the Internet is a medium (see previous point about RT).
…probably not the latter.
How many drone missions did the US operate in Yemen or Afghanistan before 9/11?
Get that reasonable bullshit out of here.
Except if we did, someone would be posting about how we shouldn’t have done it, and how we’re only doing it because…(insert made-up reason here). What are your made up reasons with regards to Libya?
No, it’s a philosophical question which people will have various answers to.
I suppose someone could call that a philosophical question with no answer.
There’s also the fact that he was the dictator of Libya for FORTY YEARS. Dude was already mad with power, the idea that he should leave his country probably didn’t even make sense to him, much less that he should leave because he’d be safer somewhere else.
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With relative ease, because he’s a moderator.
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pedo’s schtick gets old. He brings up the same shit, every thread, whether or not it relates to the subject. If there were a thread about knitting, he’d bring up how America deserved 9/11 for using bad stitching.
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You’re reaching into pedo territory, no pun intended.
I’m just going to mention the first name listed.
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You are conflating the US and Britian; it was the latter who was interested in control of Iran’s oil production. Britain “alerted” the US to Iran’s potential for allegiance with the USSR (this being at the height of Cold War tensions in the US), and despite the fact that the outgoing President (Truman) and his administration were against it, Eisenhower agreed to participate.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état#U.S._motives
All of this is meant to say, that much like you said earlier, this is not so simple as “America bad, does bad things for no good reason.” Much like you were saying earlier about how you shouldn’t believe everything you hear, because they may be superficial analyses.
I don’t have the time or desire to watch the entire thing, but with regards to 2:40- it would literally be impossible to fit that number of people in the location mentioned- link from DailyKos, which isn’t exaclty pro-establishment http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/19/996082/-Tripoli-Green-Square-Reality-Check
See also: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/22/top-ten-myths-about-the-libya-war/
Also, dictators don’t seem to ever take power because things are great, and they are always popular at first. I would bet most every dictator in history has done great things for his country- that doesn’t mean that they are good people. It means that at one point they had good intentions. So I would take that video and it’s clear bias with a grain of salt. But then again, I stopped watching when the mentioned the retarded conspiracy theory stuff after that (all banks in the world are owned by the Rothschild family etc).
You should have left it at YouTube, actually…
Says who? Better yet, is there any credible evidence that Qaddafi’s plan would have actually worked? Or that he was actually instituting it? Why now and not 4 or 10 or 15 years ago? Secondly, America was the last to join the party, as far as supporting the Libyan revolution goes- France and the UK spearheaded this, with the US just being the muscle. But of course Russia Today supports a theory, but not even the one that makes the most sense- just the one that makes America look the worst.
It’s always funny to me how the same people who tell you about how you can’t trust everything you hear etc are the first ones to post up a video/link to some obvious bullshit, because it happens to coincide with how they feel about something. Never change, Internet. Never change.
(seriously, please change)
Your google-fu is pretty fucking weak.
Also, “used his power to stay in power” is rather a polite way of saying that he killed his political enemies so he could rule a country for +42 years.
That and the killing etc.
…? Yes he did: http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=ly&v=94
Also, he was the corporatocracy.
Alright, buddy.
DONE.
That could easily be the case; if there are 150 official military people there and 20,000 contractors, the second number isn’t going to get reported as much in most circles.
You kinda proved my point. US (and Britain) took out the Iranian leader (Mossadegh) in the name of Capitalism, and to keep it from falling into communist hands. Communism was the “evil” at the time, and what we all feared. Now it’s terrorism, and next it will be the fear of the global shift of economic power to China and Germany.
Also Russia Today is a way better source than CNN, FOX, CBS, or NBC. They’re an independent news group, which means that they are unbiased, and they will have a wide range of opinions and people that they interview. As opposed to national news which ranges from moderately conservative to ultra conservative. So yeah, an alternate perspective is never a bad idea, especially from a good source.
And you are right about Gaddafi, he was deranged. I may have understated that part.
Ah, get that you’re now either trolling or are a fifteen-year-old.
But just to clarify: Russia Today is literally a propaganda arm of the Russian government- literally. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/18/russia-today-propaganda-ad-blitz
The first paragraph of their wiki page:
That is where they get their funding, and their mission statement is to improve the image of Russia abroad. However, they quickly decided instead to lean anti-American instead of pro-Russian, and they basically post up conspiracy theories and other biased stories, and then make no genuine attempt toward balance or reporting truth; their editor-in-chief literally said she doesn’t believe in balance.
But retards eat that shit up because it looks professional and it plays to their suspicions about America, all the while telling other people that they can’t trust what the media tells them.
that list needs a new #10
They’re still better than CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC. They don’t censor every person who doesn’t agree with their opinion, and the mainstream media blatantly name calls as well (both sides do). And I didn’t insult you once, you seem more like a troll than me.
So I don’t get it, are you saying to trust what the media tells you? Even after you’ve been lied to before, or at least deceived? The mainstream media is corporately funded and it protects the corporatocracy. It’s going to take something terrible (even more terrible than all of the undeclared wars, and economic rape from crony capitalism) to wake people up. No one ever cares until something bad happens to them, it’s sad.
Public news is your best bet, but even then, you can straight out tell they are biased to, even though they try not to be. IMO, foerign news outlets are your best bet for finding out things American media doesn’t want you to know when they try and paint a false image. Just expect it to be unbalanced like any other media outlet. My comparative world culture proffessor sumed it up best,
“you are going to be surrounded by figures with authority over whatever is it they talk about. Half the time they are going to spoon feed you bullshit and lies. Its your job to filter the crap out”
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I heard Gadhafi begged for his life and offered the rebels gold before he was killed.
At least Saddam Hussien was defiant to the end, basically telling the Iraqi people to go fuck themselves before they hung him.
Arm chair dictator time: Gadhafi should have flown to Zimbabwe with most of his gold when he had a chance.
Dictators reach power through ruthlessness and an immense ego. The same traits that gave them the power are also the traits that can destroy them once achieving said power. It’s hard to relate to a narcissistic sociopath because they feel like they can squirm their way out of any bad situation with words or wealth.
Saddam hid in a bunker until he was caught in a smelly, disheveled stupor; can’t really call that going out like a “man.” He was caught by the US soldiers and being tried by Iraqi citizens who lived under his tyranny, not 3rd world freedom fighters. He knew there was no way to get out of the situation, so being defiant was his only option.
Now for a **real **example of a tyrant going out like a fuckin’ man!
When you type, it’s like an open drain.
i miss hussien man. the world was better with hussiens sabre rattling tomfoolery
that’s such a load of crap. don’t you guys realise gaddafi was fighting al qaeda the same people we’re spose to be fighting. remember when preston bush funded the axis of evil and the allies at the same time? it’s the same thing
i feel sorry for the soldiers fighting who think they’re doing good and are defending opium fields
isn’t/wasn’t libya one of the richest countries in afrirca, wheres all the money gone now?
gaddafis dead, peace wage
So Gaddafi was sodomized with a stick before he was killed. i dont know whether to laugh or cry.
would yo look at that, Libya already instituted a regressive government that will end up being worse than Kaddafi ever hoped.
Afghan prime minister just said that he would fight the US in a pakistani conflict.
Pakistan isn’t our friend
and now Libya
Pakistan has never been our friend. I say get the troops out of the mid-east and let those wackos fuck up their own countries.