Fighting games aren’t that beginner friendly in my opinion. It’s largely because 1v1 takes away the burden of your team carrying the weight of new players etc. Think of a DotA type game and the situation with “feeders”. The feeder is probably having fun but he’s ruining the game for everyone else. This type of game still makes it really fun for new players to get into the genre, fighting games and other 1v1 competitive type games can’t really pull this off. If you go in and play Quake 3 1v1 against someone way better than you it’s going to be similar to a fighting game; you won’t have a chance and will really have to play a lot and take it fairly serious to get better.
Also fighting games are not designed to be played online. You CAN play online but you shouldn’t unless that is literally your only option. There are just too many shitty players online and too many widespread bad habits. Especially when the latency is bad at all the game totally changes. Things like Chun’s overhead and crossup become nearly unblockable, you can’t use anti-airs that work consistently offline, etc. Fighting games aren’t beginner friendly because you won’t get better playing against shitty people. You have to go out of your way to force yourself to play against good people who will probably beat you at least ten matches in a row regularly. You have to be able to have fun losing like that for a decent amount of time (weeks or months) before you can really start to take matches from good players (but you will be improving drastically even if you can’t notice). Most good players don’t want to play someone really new 20 matches in a row online, but if it’s at an arcade or local gathering and you can get to know the person and see that they really want to learn, you’ll often be perfectly willing to play a lot of matches against someone worse than you. If you’re not willing to go out of your way and put a decent amount of effort into it, fighting games really may not be for you and that’s fine.
In the realm of fighting games, I consider SSFIV to be a good one for beginners. I thought you were talking about SSFIV being more difficult than other fighting games. If another genre is more your knack, then I accept your comment, heh
i didnt know ssf4 was broken and if you practice/train hard and actually do better in the game you have that right to act as if your better then the next man especially if the next man doesn’t want to do what it takes to win and call a game broken because that person sucks at it well excuse me you could always camp in the corner when the round starts and hope you win like mw2. YOU CANT NOOBTUBE IN STREETFIGHTER DAMMIT!
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spoken like a true lame. of course theyre better than you at the game but i meant that they try to act like their life is better in general. but it sounds like youre one of the people im talking about so its no point in trying to explain it to people like you.
if you were talking about fighting games then tekken or blazblue (even though it’s a complete POS game) are way easier than ssf4 to learn and play. i mean everybody doesnt wanna put in that kind of time for a video game just to win but just because they dont does that mean they shouldnt have a decent chance to win at least a few games?
Go back to your seriously broken MW2 where tactics seen at 10th prestige can be seen at entry level noobs. Srsly, shooting games are the cancer that is killing competitive gaming. My little brother is 5th prestige in MW2, and I’m only level 60 but somehow someway the kill ratio is always 3:1 in my favor when we play. SF4 is the most accessible Street Fighter out there, and if you can’t hang with a few online scrubs, you don’t need to be playing anyway. That being said even with SF4 series being the most lax in terms of inputs, you still have to apply strategy which is nonexistent in your shooter games.
I have 6 characters C rank or higher with the DS3 alone (which I paid $50 for). Deal with it.
you can say that to every game… people did that over marvel, CS, wc3, sc2 diablo and etc. dont act like its just sf maybe you should get out of the house or stop playing online because online is where everyone talk shit because they can hide behind a fucking monitor.
go outside go to a lan center if you enjoy pc games so you can find friends and meet good people. well pc games you have to play it online all the way even at lan center. but when i use to go to a lan center to play dota and cs back then with some friends, we went to go look for people to scrim and have a match against. people weren’t salty when they were losing, they even had a good time and showed us respect and said GG.
same thing with why i go to the arcade scene. people never acted like their life is better then mine and etc. i made plenty of good friends. your taking the internet too seriously which you shouldnt in general.
about you crying over expensive equipment. not sure if this is how it is for MW2. when i use to play competitive cs in cal-m i bought a headset which cost like 120 bucks for a good headset. so i can just listen to footsteps and gunshots to tell where they are coming from. i also bought a mouse that was 90 bucks.
TE stick 150 compared to 210 bucks. yes im using quality stuff no cheap shits since i can afford it. plus you dont need expensive equipment to own in SSF4 look at shizza and vangief in EVO. they were pad warriors and made it to top 8?
Great read, OP. I’ve been trying to tell a lot of the information here to the local crew, but you have put it much more eloquently than I ever have. I normally just degrade into: STOP JUMPING, START BLOCKING, START THINKING! WHY DID YOU DO THAT?! which is admittedly not very useful. Thanks for taking the time to write this up, and hopefully people will actually take the time to read through this.
Broken broken broken broken BROKEN, I see that word getting thrown like it was nothing in here but people don’t understand that 1.- Most of the time what you think is broken isn’t, “ZOMG SPD gos trugh my shoryuken BROKEN BROKEN” 2.- Broken =/= bad, MvC2 is broken as hell between the top/high tier and the rest, yet the game is still awesome because every single character on the top tier is a different playstyle, all you need is get through the phase of “ZOMG dey have played for 10 years that’s unfair” and start actually playing.
I was born in 1992, I play KoF 98, SSFIV,VS, BB:CS and MvC2 in a competitive fashion and I’m semi-good at them but I’m still a pot feeder. It’s difficult as fuck to get good when social life + studies take most of your time and the only arcade that’s near from my house is 30 minutes away but I don’t need to go complaining that some people have more free time or that this guy has some natural thing that makes him be awesome at SSFIV. Deal with it.
And for the record, SSFIV IS easy to get into, it’s difficult to master like every single fighting game out there. Try to get into any King Of Fighters or Marvel vs Capcom 2, that’s difficult.
This. I just now picked up MvC2, and I’m quickly finding out through pain that shotos aren’t the way to go in that game. I need some serious help in it, I really don’t understand the air combos at all. Anyways to support you, I have a job, go to college, run track, and have a small semblance of a social life.
i guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this shit and maybe youre right about this game not being for me. all i know is i like the game but i hate how hard it is. i guess ill just stick to watching vids on youtube.
