Better call Saul! premiere Feb 8

Chuck stabbing and twisting the emotional dagger right in Jimmy’s heart.

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Then promptly returns to being crazy

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It felt more like a double-edged sword for Chuck he just lost it all right after

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Despite Chuck twisting the knife in Jimmy, seeing him degrade like that was sad to watch. Great final(?) performance from Michael McKean.

I got a good laugh when Kim was in Blockbuster. It was a good season finale:

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Also I am glad Jimmy made up to the old lady by burying himself. I think Kim is going down a path to leave the law eventually, or return to her small town roots.

[details=Spoiler]Holy shit, he played them into hating him.That’s genius.

Can’t believe Chuck went out like that. I thought it’d be an accident.
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Salamanca gets his stroke, Chuck bitches out. Pretty dry finale but meh ties up a lot of bullshit nicely enough.

Yeah this season was sorta blah for me. We all know Chuck is going to survive that shit plus it’s been a slow burn for Jimmy the ENTIRE season. At this point I was more interested in Nacho even if he got like 3 episodes in.

I was satisfied with the season’s conclusion. The show itself is intended to be a slow burn because we’re dealing with people who’re more or less living their daily lives business as usual. I think we as an audience are still under the romantic infatuation that was Breaking Bad’s tumultuous storm of events, chiefly created by an impulsive and overly-ambitious man with a limited lifespan. Jimmy is just playing to his reasonable strengths and causing problems by drawing people- wittingly or unwittingly, into his toxic schemes and mentality. Due to his temperate and subtle ways of doing things for modest rewards, the show ends up playing the long game for the payoff.

Walt - A Hurricane
Jimmy/ Saul - Quicksand

As for the events of this finale. I like the fact that they teased Chuck’s suicidal inclination 3-4 eps ago, but then stretched it out with his goal for recovery to give us a measure of hope for his recovery. Unfortunately, even with a 8 million dollar surplus to his bank account, his ego couldn’t take the loss of the only career he knew.

As for Jimmy, it was good that he tried to honestly fix the rift he created with the elderly ladies to his detriment, I think that was written in there so as to not find him utterly deplorable. They didn’t want to turn him to season 3 Walt too quickly. Kim’s change of heart was the most surprising, I was certain she was going to have realizations about Jimmy but instead went full Bonnie to jimmy’s Clyde and regressed. But I can’t blame her when she had a near death experience and only 6 hours of sleep a week, even if she decided to fill up her plate.

Oh yeah and good riddance to Hector Salamanca. I’m glad the cosmic forces put him out of play, he was a dead man walking anyway based on his level of disrespect to Don Eladio. Gustavo went full Light Yagami with his overwhelming concern over his sworn enemy’s condition. I loved that scene.

I don’t buy into these excuses. They could have sped up the entire series if they really wanted to. Did we really need to wait this long for Kim to finally have a bad day? Did we really need to wait mid-season for Jimmy’s trial? What about Nacho’s setup of Hector?

All this could’ve been done faster but it wasn’t because they wanted it to last ten episodes and hold the juicier shit until a later season.

Stop.

Mike > Nacho > Gustav >> Jimmy >>> Kim

Show needs a solid director, Jimmy and his little world just isn’t interesting enough to hold so many seasons, Mike could carry the show on his own and his interactions with Gustav is the true draw.

After three seasons we really don’t know much at all about Kim except that she really really wants to succeed as a lawyer and loves the law. Her character, although one of the best women to ever appear in this universe, still doesn’t get fleshed out as much as other major players. And yeah, she’s major. Her career is on the line because she loves the protagonist of the show. Because of that she should get some actual time and effort put in to make her her own person. Right now all we know is that Hamlin brought her in, she worked, has Mesa Verde and that Texas oil company as her clients, loves Jimmy, and is a straight shooter. Is that really all to her?

Nacho has had a lot more actual inner conflict and his life painted out for us than Kim. Shit, with that one story with Tuco and the dude’s skull in his chest we learned more about Nacho’s desires, fears, and aspirations than we have of Kimmy for three seasons.

Like I already said, the whole Chuck/Jimmy thing lasted way too long this season. If Chuck really is dead, it’s probably for the better so Jimmy can move on to something a lot less dull.

Sometimes I feel like some of you guys want the show to be Breaking Bad 2 when it’s not supposed to be.

Overall I liked the finale. As for Chuck’s suicide, there was a post I saw on Reddit that had Gould or Gilligan go into what they call “schmuck bait”. Pretty much a bait and switch to keep viewers to keep watching (like TWD does all the fucking time), which they don’t like doing to their viewers. Pretty safe to say Chuck is gone, especially after how they talked about him in Talking Saul. As for comparing all the seasons so far, I think this season was good but not as good as the first two. Season two was the best one. Can’t wait for season four, as it felt like this season went by extremely quickly. :sad:

This season was ten episodes. Weren’t the others 13?

Nope they’ve all been 10. Also I’m pretty sure Chuck is gone, its not their style to fake kill people.

Its gonna be the catalyst to finally making Saul emerge. The last conversation with Chuck basically was all Jimmy needed to hear, “Stop being what you’re not and embrace it.” Something is gonna happen this next Season to make Jimmy basically ruin his relationship with Kim irreparably, even possibly him ending her career to continue his (which would be the extreme). I hope we end up with a slight time skip, at least to him getting his license back.

Apparently though the ratings were shit, even for monday night finale it was ranked 7th. Now, a lot of us consume it in ways that aren’t tracked (DVR, website, torrents, etc) but still that’s not a good sign for the show. We may now be in 1 season to wrap it up territory.

edit: It hasn’t even been renewed for season 4 yet, not good…

I loved how Gus was so desperate to get Hector back on his feet after he got that stroke.

“Don’t dare die u old shit! I will be the one to kill you. NO ONE ELSE!!!”

So far i like this just as much as breaking bad.

Yikes.

I would hate if the show were to end before this whole thing settled up. There’s just too much left in the air.

You could also read into it what with so much boring shit happening. You guys keep saying it’s a slow burn but this is exceptionally slow. There’s no reason for it. It’s like watching water boil, we know the light is on and it’ll get there but watching it just looks like it’ll never happen.

If they do get another one and it is the final season, hopefully they put all that shit out there at a better pace.

The ratings and (legitimate) criticism may force them to speed up things in Season 4, if there is one. I feel like Season 3 had some great episodes but wasn’t a strong a product as Season 1 or 2. I think this started to stretch itself thin with stories for Jimmy, Chuck, Mike, Nacho, Gus and Kim.

Great season finale! They finally killed the fucking asshole that was dragging Jimmy down (aka Chuck). The awkward scene with Nacho’s father giving Don Hector the cold shoulder was incredibly tense. Nacho getting ready to wack Hector, but instead becoming part of the meet between Hector and Gus was great. Best of all he got to see Hector have a heart attack in front of him. My favorite part of all is when Jimmy sabotaged his own elder law practice to mend the relationships he had broken in the pursuit of the settlement money. It shows that he has no problem manipulating people, but has enough moral backbone to push himself under the bus to rectify any collateral damage. I also like that Kim received a reality check about working herself to death. I believe that if she and Jimmy part ways in the future, it will be on good terms and she will have much better work/life balance.

P.S. It is funny to me how Mike is entirely absent from the finale. Also, it was a bit weird seeing the inside of Blockbuster Video again. makes me wonder if there are any around today…

Man people being glad Chuck is dead are pretty heartless. You people have no empathy. :rofl:

I think Jimmy redeemed himself from all the Irene hate, by going nuclear on his own elder law practice just for her benefit. Saul wouldn’t have done that.