Best punishers to use

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Ok, so we all know we use different punishers for different situations but what i want to ask is for general punishing blocked moves that leave you pretty much point blank range.

ie. blocked SRK, FA crumple.

I mainly use cr.hp xx hp CU = 260 dam / 420 stun

I recently started to learn the 1 frame link: cl.mp, cr.hp xx hp CU 260 dam / 520 stun

What i noticed with the 2nd option is that it sometimes deals 298 damage (from a blocked SRK). The time is the same, I even let the dummy go back to full hp. It only done this about 10% of the times but it troubles me.
1 frame links can be dangerous since if you screw up and you end with a hp CU blocked, your open wide.

For the same damage but 100 extra stun, is it worth using if I want to up my game to the next level? Why is it that i get 298 dam sometimes?

Is this the best punisher or is there something else i dont know about?

thanks in advance!

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I’d say if you can hit the 1 frame link consistently go for the extra stun, and if you can’t keep it simple. The 100 extra stun that you’ll get for landing the longer combo is not going to be worth it to you if you’re not hitting it the majority of the time. If there’s much spacing and you need to punish quickly without meter I would use crouching fierce xx CU.

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hmmm?
Are you positive you’re landing the cl.mp>cr.hp xx hp cu? It should always be 298 damage unless he’s low health. Cl.hp>cr.mp xx hp cu does 288 but sometimes it doesn’t connect fully.

If its only doing 260 damage you missed the cl.mp>cr.hp link and comboed only the cr.hp xx hp cu.
Did you make sure to set the dummy on auto block?

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Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I believe EX rocks, c.hp xx hp.CU is the most damaging followup to a lvl 3 FA besides just doing super or ultra. EX rocks, c.hp xx EX CU may eek out slightly more damage actually but I doubt it’s worth the meter.

Edit: Actually c.hp (or s.hp) xx hk.RK xx FADC, crack kick, EX CU is probably more damaging. I don’t know if the scaling hurts it too much or not. Wish I was home to test this.

And definitely listen to this…

You should be able to land it very consistently offline before even attempting it online.

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cl.mp does 100 stun, so if you’re doing cl.mp, cr.hp xx hp CU and getting 260 dmg and 520 stun, then you’re just getting the residual stun from the cl.mp, and it didn’t combo. The whole combo should do 298 dmg and 476 stun if you did it right.

As for the best meterless punishers, yes, that combo is probably your best option, but as the other posters said, if you can’t consistently hit the link, it’s not worth the risk.

If you’re ok to burn a little meter, than here are some other high damage punishes

cr.hp xx EX CU - 280 dmg, 430 stun (1 meter)
cl.mp, cr.hp xx EX CU - 314 dmg, 484 stun (1 meter)
cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, f+hk - 288 dmg, 460 stun (2 meters)
cl.mp, cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, f+hk - 327 dmg, 520 stun (2 meters)
cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, nj.hp - 296 dmg, 460 stun (2 meters, acts as a knockdown)
cl.mp, cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, nj.hp - 334 dmg, 520 stun (2 meters, acts as a knockdown)
cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, f+hk, EX CU - 372 dmg, 586 stun (3 meters)
cl.mp, cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, f+hk, EX CU - 399 dmg, 628 stun (3 meters)

If you have U1, you can do a good healthy chunk of damage from a simple punish too. But it’s a better idea to keep the punish simple if you plan on using ultra, since Cody’s Ultra 1 scales ALOT. For instance, cr.hp xx HK RK xx FADC, Ultra 1 gives you 530 dmg, while adding a cl.mp to the front of that combo only yields 2 more damage than without.

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you forgot mk ruffian as follow up. it’s superior to mere f.mk without ex criminal. also, zonk lvl 2+3 do even more damage as non meter followup : D

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Yes sorry this is my bad! I was actually testing these punishes from a blocked SRK so the blocking from the dummy wasnt 100% block.

What Corey said is indeed correct. I guess my execution for this 1 frame link is worse than I thought.