Exactly what part of being upset that 20 characters are DLC is misinformation? That’s literally half the roster. What more info do I need to know to make this situation any less bullshit than it is? Pricing? Regardless of the pricing, most of these DLC characters will be from games that already exist i.e recycled. I read the link you posted. The base game will be 6000 yen or about $54. That’s for 20 characters, only TWO of which are new. The game and ALL the DLC will be 10500 yen which comes out to 94 dollars. Again, how many of these will be new characters considering what we know about the first 20 in the base roster?
Based on the details we know of right now, there is plenty of reason to be upset and I’m glad that many people are feeling the same way.
I don’t see how this really changes things. 20 characters for 6000 yen, of which most are recycled from other games. Then DLC to get the rest. What am I missing here?
$56 for base
$73 for DBZF
$95 for BBCTB+20 DLC+Art book+blah blah blah
Those are damn near the exact quotes I pulled up in my original post. Congrats, Novril throws in DBZF, another game from Arcsys that drew criticism for it’s DLC practices to give a perspective of the game’s pricing with DLC included. Again, exactly how does this change the negative reactions in regards to the 20 DLC announcement? Tell me. What ARE we missing here?
I gave an example for a “$60” game in Japan. Videogames cost a bit more in Japan so claiming the JPY price of BBCTB is exactly the price we’ll get in dollars is dishonest. You also said 10800 is the price for the game + DLC, but it also includes the physical merchandise. You’ve decided in advance that the pricing is a ripoff (even though it isn’t) and you seem to ignore any fact that disproves this narrative.
Don’t directly equate Japanese prices with US ones as they are different and not everything lines up to $60. For example, Monster Hunter World is retailing for 9000+ yen, and that’s just the regular edition. The point Novril is trying to make is that the game is coming out cheaper than average in Japan, and that it’ll likely be cheaper than average when it comes out in the west.
I didn’t know that about the pricing in Japan, so that’s my bad. However, the bigger picture that’s being hinted here is that rice point is irrelevant. 20 DLC is half the roster. DLC, who I’m banking on a majority being recycled, which is insanity. This announcement has deflated the hype for a lot of people and rightfully so. The only other DLC practice I can think of that comes this close in the realm of fighting games is the SFxT debacle. That game had the decency of having 38 characters, 19 of which were from Tekken and 5 of which were new to SF4 and that was still a shitshow. Only reason why this didn’t gain the traction that SFxT did is because it’s a niche anime fighter.
I normally don’t ever want to see a company suffer but this game should tank. Because of it’s target audience, it most likely will. Because of this announcement? It DEFINITELY will.
UNIEL forums here are a barren wasteland. I say this as an Akatsuki/Enkidu main who tries to hit up the UNiB forums every chance I get to get some games in. I play GG with people on Discord from here or GG specific Discords. I don’t need to post in forums related to anime fighters to talk about insane DLC practices in said anime fighters. Hell, you don’t even need to play fighting games religiously to know that what’s happening here is bullshit. Does Jim Sterling’s video on Cross Tag Battle’s disgusting DLC lose credibility because he’s not a fighting game aficionado?
Considering that only half of the roster will be available in the base game and that most of the assets are reused, I’m not getting near this game unless the price for the base game is $20.
Ok, if (And that’s a very big if, let’s be honest) the price tag for the game including DLC is relatively on par with standard FG’s, I’ll take a look at it.
If it’s a cheap base game so people can pick it up quickly and start buying DLC as they see fit, it has a shot of being a good marketing strategy that may end up making it more popular in the long run.
40 characters is also a pretty small roster considering how big the pool for characters is. There’s going to be a lot of characters left behind, especially from Persona and Uni.
If it’s a lower-priced, but not exactly a cheap game, then the strat falls flat. People won’t want to buy a game and then pay a ton of DLC.
There’s also the issue of actually getting matches. We can expect Delay-Based netcode and no Crossplay, which means you’ll actively need players with the game on the same platform as yours relatively close to you.
And we all know Ranked is a barren wasteland in anime games, with most matches happening because of forums/discord.
Looking at it right now, Cross Tag does not sound like a good investment at all.
Let’s be real here. The only reason they’re pulling this shit is because this game was destined to be niche to begin with. They are just banking on extracting more money from the people who will buy this game no matter what.
Well, it’s a very risky guess on their part. I’m going to be paying VERY close attention to the price points involved in all this, and if I don’t like what I see then I might just walk away.
If they’re asking $60-70 grand total for the whole roster (base game plus DLC combined cost) then okay, I’m in with no real problems. $80 will be a “I’ll have to think about it; how much enjoyment am I going to get out of this game” mark. Anything over that and I’m likely to walk off.