The TEENAGE MNT who have a few years of bunk training from a rat in a sewer vs. Batman who is combat expert with tons of tech and experience under his belt already… GTFO.
what other fucking rat can do this? Not mutated and learning this shit like it no thang. One year of training under his tutelage and you’ll be a god of war.
Turtles were trained from birth, and have are sorta superhuman. And they’re a well coordinated team. Batman at best learned from somebody who may have been equal to one of Hamato Yoshi’s pupil’s.
I kinda picture Bruce like an old 70’s martial artist. He knows some shit, but there’s so much new shit that’s come out that he’s sorta being left behind. Besides, he’s still best as a detective and the richest mother fucker in DC. People are always just so focused on his fighting prowess. He’d just buy up the sewer system as Bruce Wayne and force the Turtles wherever he wanted. No need to fight the Turtles when you can force them to move to Mexico.
Tim been doing the detective bit better than Bruce pre-52 when he become Red Robin. He begins shades of it after his dad died and made up a fake relative in order to legally live on his own in Bludhaven.
Being a good detective and fighting Teen Titan villains for a couple years (if that) doesn’t hold up to the sleuthing Bats be doing for the JL and on his own, and has been doing for far too long. You think Tim got game overed by Joker with a crowbar, how you think he would have stood up to Darkseid? Every Robin ends up broken, dead, turned into a villain, or worse.
they are most def superhuman. they literally leap buildings for shits and giggles. i dunno if the stats have every been fully explained but ya they do have super strength.