I read all star supes and I didn’t like the animated film. The length really hurt it cause half the situations didn’t have proper explanation…plus I wanted to see all the alternate supes and the 1 story about superman and his "what if"daughter. As a film it was clumsy and messy like dark knight rises…too many ideas and no clear focus.
Flashpoint was the shits though man…sure comic series was better but it was dark,mature and bloddy…and WTF is wrong with image comics?
Just cuz the comic is good doesn’t mean it’s movie counter part is, I don’t need to read All Star Supeman to judge the movie…which was bad. Unless we’re playing by comic hipster rules…and we’re not.
And Flashpoints appeal was far beyond Batman with Guns. It had an epic scale and many redeeming qualities.
[EDIT] - I just realized how far we’re deviating from MoS/Batman sequel.
I just hope the people who made MoS pay attention to the poor reviews it received despite box office success. My fear is the money success will blind their need to address the severe problems with MoS and completely ruin the Justice League era of DC live action movies.
No one has mentioned anything about the comic. We’re speaking strictly about the movie. A good movie should stand alone well without the comics and it doesn’t.
Except it didn’t do it well. Batman: Gotham Knight is an example of how to do this well. The sections were clearly divided without respect to the differing animation styles. In All-Star Superman the viewer didn’t know if they were going to the next scene or the next chapter. When the scene did change it was abrupt without any warning.
Beyond Batman with guns (which I didn’t find particularly entertaining) it was still a decent flick. It would have been better if it expounded more upon what drove the warring factions, but it was (just) enough to know that they were fighting. The premise has been done before (and what hasn’t?), but it was still interesting to see a “what if” take based upon an event that causes a divergent universe.
Don’t feel too bad. Looking back at your posts, you never actually made an argument against what I was saying. Just a bunch of “This was good”, “That was bad”, etc.
Wrong. That one dude with the cartoon Flash avatar said this: " If it did the best job it could translating the mini series…then it was a terrible miniseries."
It didn’t do it well, but that’s more a function of each section not having enough breathing room in the running time than anything else. Gotham Knight’s convention worked in Gotham Knight because it’s intended to be an anthology of differently-styled stories, which isn’t really appropriate for ASS.
I agree that if all you require of Flashpoint is that it give a perfunctory explanation for why the characters are fighting, then it does a fantastic job. Arcade games in the early 1990s also do a fantastic job under similar requirements.
The animated short films by the Fleischers (not the Famous Studios ones) are excellent. The '50s TV series with George Reeves was good for what it was, particularly earlier on in its run–a lighthearted procedural that occasionally threatened to turn into an adventure story. After Smallville got over the hump of its first season, it had a couple good years before it started running aground. And if you ignore basically any part that has Zod in it, Man of Steel is pretty good. Sorry, Michael Shannon. You’re still the man.
Guess what? Two of my favorite periods of the character are the earliest, back when he didn’t have any powers to speak of… and the Weisinger era.
Most of the praise I’ve seen for Flashpoint is “WHOOOOOOO DID YOU SEE THAT DUDE GET SHOW! YO THIS IS SO ADULT AND EXXXXTREME! WONDER WOMAN JUST KILLED A KID MMOOOOOUUUNNNNTTTAAIIIN DDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW”. And Superman TAS, while not as good as Batman TAS was still really good and well done for the most part. yeah Supes was nerfed but I give about two fucks about that, it’s not because of Supes strength that I like him, it’s his personality, what he does, and how he interactcs with his friends. And dat score. And damn, the two main Darkseid arcs blow most of BTAS out of the water IMO.
I don’t know how anyone can think Year One wasn’t great.
You have billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne casually flashing Gordon’s wife his Bat-junk so that she’d think he was too vapid and pig-ish to have a secret identity.
Superman doesn’t have to resort to threatening to nuke the planet to make Darkseid yield. Supes single handed dethroned Darkseid with a salvage beating.
Ya know I just realized…Clark is the only friend Bruce talks to and trust. Bats relationship with most of the JL is mainly work related and I get the feeling guys like Jordan don’t really care much for him.
So this is getting traction. Wonder if there is any hope… Scott’s acting has improved tremendously over the past few years, it would be great to see him do a role he’d be perfect for. Plus he’d add some much needed input into filming fights sequences correctly.
