Yeah, wtf?!
He’s mashing st.jab as fast as he can, with good timing, so that he doesn’t change his stance in-between each jab. While he’s doing that, he’s holding one of the down positions to charge his headbutt, so that when he stops hitting st.jab, he can perform a headbutt.
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At 4:15 you can start to see Afro attempting to do it, and messing up a couple of times, but he got it going on like the third try.
Wow, didn’t even know that was possible.
It’s similar in theory to how Old and New Guile is able to mash st.short while maintaining charge for a sonic boom or flash kick. It’s a fun little trick, fairly difficult to execute, but it can often bait your opponents into jumping at you, since they see that you don’t have the flash kick charged anymore.
Hm, now that I think of it, at X-Mania this year Yaya showed us a fucked up combo with Guile where he did nothing but standing moves into super. Guess he was using the same trick… I don’t think anyone was recording when he did that. (He just showed it, it wasn’t during an actual match)
No, this trick is different. Standing moves into super involve specific buffering, for example Ryu st.HP->super. Whereas standing headbutt for Rog just involves mashing st.LP and then going really fast to crouch position whilst kara’ing a light kick and then resuming the mashed LP.
It’s not really a trick, it’s just quickly going into the special/super motion while you perform a standing normal. It’s like how guile is able to do st.fierce x flashkick. It requires some pretty fast hands to charge as quickly as possible and solid timing. Basically as you do the flash kick motion, you press a normal as you pass the neutral position on the joystick, and then quickly move up to do the move.
Or if you’re talking about how like Ryu and Fei are able to do st.HP xx super, they just buffer the motion while doing a st.hp. Requires some pretty fast hands and good timing as well, but there’s no weird trick to it.
No, the thing was he didn’t just do one standing normal before the super, but several. I can’t remember the combo though. Other people saw it, maybe Fulaani knows, I’ll ask him some time soon.
Thanks for explaining there’s a kara’d light kick in there, Boggleminds.
Just a tip for anyone who’s having trouble countering crossups… wakeup super works pretty well. If it’s blocked, at least you’re safe and you will do chip damage to boot.
Rog’s super is basically a “get out of jail free card”. It’s possible to activate it whenever you want, in any situation. I use it all the time on wakeup to counter meaty jump-ins. If it’s blocked, at least it will keep you at a safe distance.
For shoto’s who like to do c.rh xx hadouken, it’s possible to super immediately after c.rh is blocked and super through the fireball.
If your opponent is in the corner and you grab him, you can do a Jab Dash Punch as they’re falling. You will basically switch places and you can cancel into super from the opposite side. Most people will still be blocking the same way when you dash punch to the opposite side, leaving them open to eat a super.
Rog’s super can also punish blocked Psycho Crushers. You can counter super, mid-Psycho Crusher. This follows the same principle as the above tactic. As soon as they go to the opposite side, activate Super. I’m pretty sure Jab Straight works too. Same with far s.rh but it doesn’t always work. Dictator’s super can be countered in the same way as Psycho Crushers but people usually block it whenever I try. Psycho Crushers are guaranteed to be countered by Rog’s Super but I’m not so sure about Dictator’s Super.
Empty headbutt into super is a great tactic for bating shit.
Is it just me, or Tamashima is eating a few Yoga Fires just to build meter in the video below? Looks like he sometimes takes the hit of a Jab Yoga Fire while doing a TAP just so he gets meter fast enough. BTW, we’ve seen Hakase beating Rog players recently, so this one should probably help Rog players. Not sure Tamashima uses anything amazing, but he just looks extremely solid. He took advantage of most chances of landing the full super, and he got that meter ready relatively early in most rounds.
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It was a great set. It’s an interesting strategy, but I don’t think it’s an efficient idea to eat free damage just to build the super. Why not do what most Rog players do in the Chun right, and just build meter by doing rush uppers?
He was trying to trade TAP with yoga fire. His timing was off. Most of the time rog players will try to trade a level 3 TAP for max damage. If the level 3 TAP hits, that usually leaves sim very little life to work with after. But even level 1 or 2 TAP trade goes in rogs favor. Hitting that trade is key in this match for rog to win consistently against sim. Once sim gets scared to throw yoga fires, rog is free to get in dat ass.
huh. I always thought the best way to get over yoga was NJ.HP.
I think it still is, but doesn’t build you any meter. It stuffs Sim’s st.fw and st.rh, but gets beat by aerial counters and his crouching strong and fierce.
The point of the TAP isn’t to dodge YF, its to trade in rogs favor.
Tsuji would use neutral Fierce, as ultracombo mentioned, but he mixed it up with other things (neutral RH, Jab Headbutt, Fierce Headbutt, jump back and rush). He also jumped forward quite a lot. For comparison:
Gian (Dhalsim) vs Tsuji (Boxer)
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Hakase is known as the best sim player in the world but to me, Gian seems way more solid.
I’m trying to fashion my Sim from both Hakase and Gian. I think Hakase is currently on top of his game right now, whereas I think Gian isn’t as active as he used to be in the ST scene as a player. Seems like he’s quite happy being a TO.
But still, can’t ignore his dominating performance at Evo during casuals.
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I really wish there was tournament footage of ST at Evo 2k5.
I think Gian at his prime was the best ST player to ever play the game. I don’t think any other player will get that high up in level again. And I’m talking about overall vs every character in ST, no one had as many answers to all the characters in the cast like Gian did.
Couldn’t expect less from Tsuji:
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