You know what’d be crazy, if they basically just give all of his vanilla stuff back and retain all of his AE changes aswell.
wipes drool from chin
The funny thing is that even if they did that he wouldn’t be toptier or anything at all, he’d just be solid as fuck with a ton of options. No way in hell that will happen though because you know, Capcom…
ok, let’s bet! I bet Gen will receive no buffs at all. Probably won’t be changed at all.
His Mantis st.MP will be +7 on hit, +4 on block.
His Crane st.HP will be +1 on hit, -4 on block.
His Crane st.LK will be -2 on block, -1 on hit.
His Crane cr.HK will have his hitbox extended upward a bit more, along with his hurtbox.
His Crane st.LP will have his hitbox extended forward a bit more.
I bet on these things, so you know he’s not going to have them 
. I’m famous among my friends for guessing stuffs wrong.
well, today I talked a bit with Amiyu. He said he feels Gen is already powerful enough and he wouldn’t want him to become any stronger. I sort of disagree, but well, he knows this character way more than most other players.
I definately disagree with him. Gen is solid but he has quite a lot of problems still. At the very least they need to make our AA not trade 90% of the time unless you use mantis c.hp. Capcom has proven to be very weird when it comes to ‘‘balancing’’ though so I’m still a little scared that do something retarded again.
Off-topic: why didn’t Amiyu participate in GG4? He was voted 20th in the list of players that people want to see (top 10 got a free ticket in) so I was expecting him to show up for the qualifiers ^^
Give me full animation on AA Mantis U2 and fix the stance change glitch and I’ll be happy. The rest is a bonus.
All my other concerns can be answered by nerfing Fei. I don’t think I feel too badly in any other match-up (and it’s obvious the twins will be toned down).
I didn’t ask him… but I think he was simply busy with his daily job 
besides this, he lives in Osaka, not so close to Tokyo…
that matchup isnt that bad. i mean its bad, like 6-4 fei, but it isnt super cammy or any version of rufus
gen might get buffed more anyway. i wont complain. but it seems most people still think he’s weak. i wouldnt be suprised if he got a slight damage boost
LOL @ fei match-up isn’t bad. Try playing a fucking good Fei with Gen he doesn’t even need to play footsies he just needs to get dat rekka 3x and we’re in the corner. Oh what’s that? Gen has pokes? Yeah Fei long has those + rekkas so everytime you try something he’ll just mix those up for you.
terrible match-up, it always was actually but you can’t say that nowadays without people shouting ‘‘LOL U JUST RIDING THE FEI NERF HYPE’’ at you when you make such a claim, so whatever. He basically negates everything Gen excels at like footsies and spacing. Fei long doesn’t need to afraid of Gen either. Against a good fei long this is my usual match progression chart:
round 1 I get raped by pressure in the corner>round 2 I have enough meter to do super so I will probably win> round 3 …already used super…YOU LOSE!
I assume her will get hit by nerfbat, but I wonder how they will do it. Because Fei relies much on his rekka pressure so if they fuck that up too much…
no its not that bad. ive played inthul with gen. he beat me 3-0, but it wasnt like i couldnt do anything. he just outplayed me when we came down to clutch moments in the match. like i impatiently jump, or toss out a misplaced sweep and get punished
you really have to just understand the spacing ability over your opponent. if you know the range on LP rekkas, the match gets a lot easier. i know it very well because i also play fei. but basically if youre at about half screen walking in and out of that range, he cant just rekka for free. anything but the first lp rekka is punishable with cr.mpxxxhands.
2 rekkas from max mp rekka range, where you’ll be standing, is a target combo punish. lp rekka whiff is either a sweep or a TC. and any one rekka you block from that spot is crmpxxxhands. stand fierce will knock down any random CWs from here too. i also neutral jump or flash focus from here too. fei cant armor break outside lp rekka range, where the first hit of a CW will hit you
its a 6-4 for fei. but winnable assuming you have superior spacing. not easy tho considering his tools work better for controlling space than yours. i have a much tougher time against sakura, cammy, ken, or rufus
If Fei got nerfed in the rekka delay timing so we wouldn’t have to guess “will he do a delayed rekka?” and can straightout punish him according to the frame data without getting countered out just because we tried to punish a move that is -4 or more on block without a FADC, I feel everything is okay with him. I think he can use a buff or two here and there if he loses delayed rekka, maybe rekka being FADCable. But that may make him more like Yang. Shit’s so hard to change, but right now Fei’s matchup is hard. His LP rekka has 7 start-up yet has the same range with our crane cr.HP :(, damage is incomparable but getting pushed to the corner = bad.
With Fei discussion aside, I think Gen’s specials will remain absolutely untouched.
Great discussion guys. I can’t find a thing to disagree with. I’ll try to take your advice, Mike, but I had to fight an amazing Fei at EVO and I don’t think we win the spacing/footsies game against him. Especially when one mistake leads to getting pushed in the corner by rekka or CW combos. In the corner we definitely lose. I think it’s my personal hardest match.
If they reduce hitstun on block/hit for 1st rekka, or slowed down the startup on 2nd rekka, I feel we’d be back in it.
Good shit on that advice on what punishes rekka, Mike. But your last sentence is what makes this match so hard, you have to completely outspace/footsie the Fei and he doesn’t have to work nearly as hard to do the same spacing wise. Ok so probably the match-up is decent but you get put in a corner so fast by one or two mistakes and then the match-up takes a turn for the worst for Gen.
Interesting you mention rufus as a harder match-up I just played FT10 with a strong one, could you eloborate on why you feel that way about him?
Maybe this stuff belongs in matchup thread :X
i dont think we win the spacing game either. like warlike was saying, he basically auto pilots his footsies, while you have to do all the thinking. thats why i give him the edge. i just dont think gens tools are totally outclassed to the point where its feeling like you only win by being the much better player. thats the way i feel against cammy or rufus
i feel rufus is harder because if at any point in the neutral game if you arent solid and ready, rufus gets in and kills you. simply blocking a jump in in that fight is a terrible move once they realize that crane cr.rh OS is horrible on block and hit.
All these are going into my brain for match-up knowledge.
I don’t like getting air thrown out of my Crane U2 on reaction. Just saying.
Crane AA trades way to much for my liking.
What I would really like to see is a meterless way to combo into sweep with normals. I’m still for my mantis standing mp buff.
My memory is a little hazy on this, but doesn’t a counterhit s.mp combo into c.hk? I actually use s.mp a lot to frametrap people and finish it off with c.hk or c.hp if they try to jump away or just stop blocking but I can’t remember if CH makes it combo into sweep.
Yes, counterhit mp combos into sweep. I can’t believe I forgot about that >.<. I still want a normal meterless combo into sweep. I like untechable knockdowns.