Balance requests for Ono

[ID01]

I played air took a few, lost bout twice as much …only 1 SUPER match posted to UTUBE a while back per shin akuma, I have a hard time taking things as serious as it sounds im supposed to I guess , I made a lot of mistakes , but playing my style did have its benefits…juss sayin overall yes he took me , in retrospect, a quick fix here and there i think hes an even matchup or 6-4.

I don’t mean online. I mean in person tournament matches when money is on the line.

I’m pretty sure in a more casual setting it will be different, but what is the point of talking about those situation when we probably want this character to be viable in the most serious situation?

[Reipin_Pillage]

I keep hearing that but every character announced thus far was on the leaked list. As for Gouken, it seems that he was victimized by Capcom making SSF2T Akuma to strong. They went too far in the other direction.

Possibly, but they haven’t exactly moved him up any in four tries.

[Imm0rt4l]

I GOT IT!!!

Why can’t hado have invincible 3 frame start up???

I like this idea. Hadouken is basically his best poke, but it’s slow startup makes it a liability in close/mid range. I don’t think 3 frames is asking too much. Giving him a faster startup on hadouken however would be asking too much, and would probably make for some broken corner combos.

[climaxter]

I want hado to have a bigger hitbox

[Imm0rt4l]

I want hado to have a bigger hitbox

I think it probably should, Ibuki is still able to necbreaker through it without ex.

[The_Mullah]

I like this idea. Hadouken is basically his best poke, but it’s slow startup makes it a liability in close/mid range. I don’t think 3 frames is asking too much. Giving him a faster startup on hadouken however would be asking too much, and would probably make for some broken corner combos.

i dont get it, can iam please elaborate?

hado startup is retardedly slow, like 15-20 frames or something, i dont understand what 3 frames of invincibility would do. you’re still lose to meaty option selects and safejump option selects. hell if something is active long enough it’ll flat out counter hit you. what am i missing?

[Imm0rt4l]

i dont get it, can iam please elaborate?

hado startup is retardedly slow, like 15-20 frames or something, i dont understand what 3 frames of invincibility would do. you’re still lose to meaty option selects and safejump option selects. hell if something is active long enough it’ll flat out counter hit you. what am i missing?

I’m looking it as a poke. Sometimes when throwing fireballs from certain ranges against say Sagat(who has really good buttons) hadouken will get stuffed . I was thinking this might make it more likely to trade at least. I could be wrong but point blank wouldn’t it beat throw or make for a useful os of tech/gohadou? I’m buzzing at the moment so I probably don’t know what I’m talking about.

Edit nah it wouldn’t work on second thought, I’ll stick to option selecting empty jumps with counter.

[climaxter]

I think it probably should, Ibuki is still able to necbreaker through it without ex.

I just don’t like when they jump over your med or high hado and their evil little legs or faces go right through it

[The_Mullah]

it would still get stuffed under most normal situations when used as a poke, unless your opponents active frames are less than 3 and you time it perfectly (randomly). sagats pokes are like 4 and 5 frames active, so ur going to lose no matter how you time it.

you could use it to stuff throws i suppose but wakeup fireball? thats asking for trouble. if they implemented it i doubt anyone would notice, like how noone knows bisons psyco crushers in ST have startup invincibility.