Balance Patch Incoming

[iVi_a_iV_9_o]

What makes Raven S tier? I haven’t kept up with the game in a while but I keep hearing people complain about him.

Godly projectile game, godly teleport, godly meterless combo, godly jab pressure, tricky windcross mixup when switch cancelled…

Might be exaggerated a bit, but I play Hugo and Raven is a nightmare matchup (Hugo cant duck a TK Shuriken)

/Mango

[Tom_1]

K im really curious what they did to Juri’s dive kick now. Hopefully lk pinwheel is still -2 on crouchers, and mk was never safe to begin with, but if they are not changing the frame data on divekick, what are they changing?

Lk pinwheel is atleast -5 on crouchers right now since the last hit whiffs on crouch block.

[SPECTERLIGHT]

I MIGHT be able to take this game seriously now. MIGHT…

[Solless]

I’ve said this on other threads but by jove I’m sticking to it. Juri’s LK Senpusha should’ve been left alone. It’s only real use is to finish a chain safely since it’s not damaging, doesn’t lead to bigger combos, isn’t a safe move to try to tag out on nor switch cancel on, and inflicts negligent chip damage.

[Ouroborus]

Divekicks need to just leave all FGs via the nearest exit and never return.

dive kicks been around since sf2

[iVi_a_iV_9_o]

dive kicks been around since sf2

Worst argument ever.

/Mango

[therook]

i like that logic though…muggings and murders have been around for centuries…so they should stay? o_O

[Wonderswan]

Worst argument ever.

/Mango

Just as dumb as the dive kicks should be removed from FGs argument. Well wasn’t much an argument, just another butthurt statement. :rolleyes:

I wish more people had played Rufus in SF4, definitely a character that needed over saturation so the community would have stopped crying about divekicks in 2009, and not still bitching in 2012. Jesus Christ.

Divekicks aren’t a problem, Dive kicks with a giant arsenal of other bullshit like a command throw, a teleport, a projectile, and easy ass hit confirms into damage, that’s something to cry about. >.>

[iVi_a_iV_9_o]

Just as dumb as the dive kicks should be removed from FGs argument. Well wasn’t much an argument, just another butthurt statement. :rolleyes:

Agreed. Divekicks arent really a problem. Divekicks with too much frame advantage are though. I think Akumas is a nice example of how divekicks should work.

/Mango

[The_Breaker]

Just as dumb as the dive kicks should be removed from FGs argument. Well wasn’t much an argument, just another butthurt statement. :rolleyes:

I wish more people had played Rufus in SF4, definitely a character that needed over saturation so the community would have stopped crying about divekicks in 2009, and not still bitching in 2012. Jesus Christ.

Divekicks aren’t a problem, Dive kicks with a giant arsenal of other bullshit like a command throw, a teleport, a projectile, and easy ass hit confirms into damage, that’s something to cry about. >.>

no, the problem is crying

period

[Rayartz]

He had that in ST. Poison can do the same, although she’s not even close to being as good as Ryu.

Not trolling but cr.RH is not new. He had had it in many games of the original SF series games. In fact he had in every game up until Alpha 3.

True, I know it isn’t anything exactly knew – just feel bringing it back after adding other tools to his game was a bit much. Especially considering the treatment other characters recieved like Chun’s LK Hasanshu no longer considered an Overhead, when the Hasanshu is an important part of her game – this change has hurt her up close offensive/mix up abilities.

[Ouroborus]

i like that logic though…muggings and murders have been around for centuries…so they should stay? o_O

after dive kicks, we should get rid of fireballs next.

[Siegvriel]

after dive kicks, we should get rid of fireballs next.

LOL Fireballs already suck unless your name is Guile or Ryu.

[therook]

after dive kicks, we should get rid of fireballs next.

it was the logic behind it, you implied that it’s ok because it’s been around since SF2.
I didn’t say dive kicks were a bad thing, but just because something has been around for awhile doesn’t deem it a good thing. I don’t think bugs and glitches are a good thing(especially if they are game breaking) but they been for a long time.

[X_Fatal_Grace_X]

Christ almighty… Ryu this, Ryu that… There are more important things that need fixed in this series other than Ryu. The thing is by getting so much exposure to him (specially online) he will start to get easier and easier to read/predict. Now RAVEN on the other hand… May have one too many pluses that need to be examined.

[rayplay]

LOL Fireballs already suck unless your name is Guile or Ryu.

Raven, Chun, Poison, before I go on, are we strictly talking SFXT here?

[iVi_a_iV_9_o]

Raven, Chun, Poison, before I go on, are we strictly talking SFXT here?

Poison’s FB recovery is garbage…

/Mango

[Rushdown]

Common sense tells me that rufus will be +4 after a minimum height divekick is blocked rather than -4. No aerial moves leave you at minus frames and the way it’s worded they’re talking about the disadvantage for the blocker.

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[Solless]

Common sense tells me that rufus will be +4 after a minimum height divekick is blocked rather than -4. No aerial moves leave you at minus frames and the way it’s worded they’re talking about the disadvantage for the blocker.

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I dunno, the way it’s worded looks ambiguous to me.

[iVi_a_iV_9_o]

Common sense tells me that rufus will be +4 after a minimum height divekick is blocked rather than -4. No aerial moves leave you at minus frames and the way it’s worded they’re talking about the disadvantage for the blocker.

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Yun and Yang divekicks are at minus frames on block iirc.

/Mango