Hey guys, no more bitching at people you’ve never met. Remember that this is a community that is supposed to welcome new and curious participants. If you can’t play nice, I’ll get a mod to clean it up! :karate:
I find that offensive and racist…:lol:
Now that Fubar has layed the quack down on our prissy asses, on to serious business…what are you planning to do with the 3 cabs of SF4 once Super drops? Are you going to swap them out with other games or something? Maybe have them wired to a ps3 with Super? Just curious.
Until the arcade version drops officially later this year, we’re probably going to do 2 or 3 head-to-head setups for the Xbox 360 version with a Timer board and leave one head-to-head of regular arcade SF4. There are a few people who still want to practice vanilla SF4 for SBO & SBO Quals (myself included) but understandably most are going to want to be playing Super.
House rule will be that the loser/next player refills the timer (even if there’s some time remaining), so that the winner isn’t having to pay to play. We’ll definitely do some events though where you can just pay a cheap cover to play Super all night.
That sounds like a great idea.
anyone going tonight?
apparently I will be omg I can’t wait to not play you in SF4
I’ll be there
Me and Jesse as always will be there tonight
Hope it gets something soon, otherwise Arcana will suffer the “Gundam Syndrome” were the price of a game was too high and half the community decided to quit. Once the price drop, a few people came by but not everyone, I doubt the scene will fix up again like it used to be.
Honestly, my fear for the arcana scene is at a all time high seeing as how almost no one is playing it due to price/round issues I keep being told about.
50 cents 2 out of 3? I don’t know if this will happen or not 
Looks like I’ll be at ufo tonight (9:30~ish)
That sounds sweet.
Hey, speaking of console only games… I don’t mean to be a bother but I really do like TvC.
I wouldn’t count on that happening any time soon. “Gundam syndrome” wasn’t the price, it was not as many people liking the game as much as Destiny. Which is too bad since it cost $25,000. It means we can’t do cool stuff like that in the future.
If you want to keep seeing new games at UFO and not the same lineup for 2+ years at a time like Einstein’s, I would recommend getting used to the current pricing.
Or, if you guys want, we could switch to a card system and charge over $1.00 for every game and still have only 2/3 rounds . . .
Didn’t think so. 
The Gundam thing, I remember a lot of people saying stuff like “Wow, I can’t wait for this game to be 50 cents!” when it first came out. When we were told that there would be no price drop, we had to tell those people who were excited about a price drop that it was not going to happen. So about half the community quit (this is no over-exaggeration). At first people were not used to the changes in GvG next, but they all grew to like it and accept as a better version of Destiny. Actually, there is like only 2 people I can think of that didn’t like NEXT, vs the many others who had no problems jumping on to NEXT. Actually, our scene grew thanks to getting NEXT… however… everyone in the community will agree that it took too long for some kind of price drop.
Arcana Heart 3 is the most expensive game in the Arcade, and no one will argue that.
Even at 50 cents 2 out of 3 it will still cost a lot of play it, but it’s more acceptable than 75 cents.
It’s really sad to see the game die the way it did in Austin seeing as how it was my most favorite game in the Arcade. I tried really hard to keep the scene going, but to no avail. No one likes the fact that it’s 3 out of 5 (even Japan hates it, it does change the game too much. Even the AH scrubs ask me about it all the time… of course I stay quite), and 75 cents for a game were you can die in less than a minute will scare people off the machine.
The thing is, these are not my opinions, this is the opinion of everyone who came up to me and asked me the same questions and when “this has to change” or “when is it going to change”, etc etc.
Obviously, Ryan, it is up too you what you want to do about it. My suggestion to these people is “e-mail the owner”… but I wonder how many people actually do that =/
You say it as if I have a choice. Arcana 3 is nowhere close to breaking even. If it doesn’t hold up at .75, it will be the last Arcana/Examu game at UFO. Simple as that. We are never getting Gundam VS Extreme either, unless someone buys it for us (like Stride did) or Gundam VS Extreme 2 comes out 
VS Extreme would have to be 1.00 for the entire lifespan of the game to have a chance of breaking even. I love both games, and I would hate to not be able to upgrade but there is a reality behind business. I already work a full time job to keep the arcade open, so I think that’s enough.
From my experience as a player that wanted to get good and play games like BB AH MB and gundam at first but has mostly given up is this. Those games are extremely discouraging when you loss. You feel like you had no chance ever and it feels bad. To me SF and Tekken feel like you have a better shot at getting better even when up against someone like Viet. That coupled with a few bad experiences I had with a few of the players of those games (getting yelled at across the machine/being told to my face for being a scrub), during tournaments and casuals, made me quit.
However I think a possible solution might be making a night devoted to a specific game. An event geared towards helping out new people in the game rather then just a tournament, where the better players and workers at the arcade would try to get the people to try out the games and help them with learning the system and characters. Maybe set up matches between players of similar skill levels so they don’t feel so thrashed.
I don’t know maybe this is a horrible idea.
I understand where you are coming from here. But i do not see the difference between 50 cents 2 out of 3 and 75 cents 3 out 5 profit wise. I think more random people would play it at 50 cents and then probably play again resulting in a dollar instead of having a quarter left over. I am no expert on this though and am just expressing an opinion. I know when i play 2 games and have 50 cents left over i tend to play something else so i dont have a loose quarter. We all appreciate what you are doing for the community here i would merely take it as suggestionas a lot of players feel this way.
I think AH3 would be a lot closer to breaking even if people were actually playing it, which is far more likely at 50c 2/3 than it is at 75c 3/5. There was a lot of hype for AH3 when we first got it, but even on the very day it was set up, people were already saying “I’d play it if it was 50c.” 75c to get raped in like 30 seconds of total play time isn’t very enticing for new players who want to try it out, even less so because it breaks up their change in a way that isn’t really conducive to playing anything else at UFO.
Of course AH3 isn’t going to break even at 75c a game when only Ben is putting money into it on a regular basis (okay Iki sometimes plays a random singleplayer game but I think he’s beaten the game with everybody at this point so even he isn’t doing that often). It really is the same situation as Gundam; game felt too new so people didn’t know what to think about it, and it was far less appealing for a lot of people to try to get into it at 75c. When it dropped to 50c (which a lot of the old scene didn’t even know about at first), suddenly people were playing again and we even had new players getting into it… but there are at least a few players from RvZ2 who never came back. There are a lot of other factors for why the Gundam scene ended up the way it is right now, “people didn’t like it as much as Destiny” is pretty much ignoring the fact that after playing it for a bit, most people ended up liking it MORE than Destiny.
After Daemon Bride dropped to 50c, there were more people playing it for sure. Was it enough to offset the overall loss of 25c a game? I dunno, but at least people were playing it.
I understand that if you drop the game from 75c to 50c you need like 33% more plays just to make the same amount of money, but even if dropping it to 50c only brought like 3-4 more players back to the game, honestly that’s tripling or quadrupling the amount of people currently playing AH3 on a regular basis.
So what you’re saying is that because you don’t know how to play and get raped, you don’t want to play anymore because you can’t win? And that in SF4 and Tekken that because they have Ultra/Revenge/MOREDAMAGE systems, it’s easier for you to scrub people out? No offense but you should stop mashing and you would suck less.
Don’t get butthurt when people call you a masher when they can hear you mashing from across the arcade. I went through the same shit, you know what I did? I mashed more quietly. LAWL.
You want to get better at the game? Ask better players. Kenneth, Jeff, Pozer has always helped anybody I’ve seen ask them (me included, and I mash hard). They also don’t sugarcoat it if you suck. I know almost everybody is willing to give up rounds for you to practice if you ask them too. Even if they hate you, they will still give you advice. I doubt any one of people who play BB/AH/MB/Gundam will be like, “NOPE SCRUB GET OUT OF MY FACE” if you are sincere about getting better. Even I will give you advice if you ask me, but you know what? Not once have I ever seen you walk to the other side and be like “Hey, what am I doing wrong?/How can I beat your [INSERT MOVE]?” etc etc. If you don’t ask for help, no one is going to extend their hand to you because they don’t know you want help. They just think you’re happy mashing your way to the lose screen.
This is the arcade, you go in, put your money in, get raped by pros. That’s how you get better. That’s how I got better and almost everybody else.
Woah! I’m not trying to start a fight here. I was just sharing my experience. I know I’m not that great, ok? I get my ass handed to me all the time by fubar, viet, you name it at SF. The difference is after that I get a “GG” and handshake at a tournament unlike BB, AH etc where I get (from a few of the guys who are not as cool a dude as poser) “FUCKING SCRUB HAHA STOP PLAYING” from across the machine or if I win I hear “WOW YOU GAVE THAT GAME TO THAT SCRUB I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU”.
I’m a little more inclined to ask for help from the guy that gave me the hand shake then from the guy that calls me a fucking scrub every time he sees me play. Maybe they are just joking and call me oversensitive if you want but it wasn’t exactly encouraging.
Getting raped by pros to get better is exactly what I’m doing… In SF because I was wholly discouraged by those other games, which is what my post was originally about. I’m not trying to start a shit-fest ok? I’m just trying to share my experience so that fubar might understand the mindset of someone that quit the games. He’s smart and can maybe come up with a way, if there are other people like me, to start playing/play again.
I’m not claiming to know how to fix everything I’m just trying to help and if that’s not welcome here I’ll just clam up and stop any of my, apparently futile, efforts to get a little bit involved in the community.
are you kidding? lol viet fubar and others might give you a handshake at tournaments and a GG but me sinister x and winchester will say FUCK YOU SCRUB as we barely squeak out a win hahahaha i’m kidding…about winchester