Yes. Thats how you ALWAYS do things. Do not ban until you prove it should be banned. Don’t ban because DG says so. Ban because community consensus and tournament results prove it.
janne is top tier because she can shoot a mother fuckin bird from her sword
I don’t see how something that circumvents ‘guy with more life wins’ adds anything positive to the game. Personally I’ve never been more excited when watching the judgment circley thing than watching lifebars. In fact, I usually am much, much less excited. W00t let’s decide a match by how many cool combos I do that the game deems awesome instead of how much fuckin damage I do.
And I really am not expecting anyone in UM is gonna be broke enough to be banned.
I just played some more WHP today…Janne has GOOD POKES…serious,but I got a good matchup for Rasputin in BROCKEN…my new way to play Brocken is like Tesse all over again…and speaking of Tesse…she just got 3x nastier in WW7..watchout…new hitconfirm into Super combos.watchout!!!
I play a combination of rushdown and keepwawy Brocken…like I do with Tesse…I dont mind getting in your face and rushing you down!!!
Careful with brocken. His pokes extend his hitbox. Rasputin’s dont. He is, on me and funkdoc’s chart, an even match with Rasputin. We dont have anyone listed with an advantage over Rasputin, but we do have 4 or 5 even matches.
Janne’s pokes are terrible, btw. You want good pokes? Play Rasputin, Brocken, Ryofu, Carne, Jack. Janne’s normals are BAD.
well 98 is gonna be great cant wait:looney:
Jannes best poke is her far st. a…thats really what I mean. Yeah I know about Brocken extending his hitbox…but I dont use long pokes all the time…I use everything…so its not just Dhalsim style…its EVERYTHING.
Plus you gotta love his BISON SCISSOR KICK (safe if blocked)…Plus he has good antiairs that most people wouldnt think about using as ANTIAIRS…
My main three are Jack, Brocken, Rasputin.
Really? I saw a ton of matches at Final Round where Judgement made the game more exciting than “lifebars”. I’ve played actual tournament games where I’ve lost due to judgement when I had more life and still think it’s better.
Judgement is more exciting because it discourages turtling. You can have a very slight health advantage but still behind in judgement, which encourages you to not to sit around on your ass.
Another thing, contrary to popular belief, the number of combos you do doesn’t really have a big effect on judgement. Losing a character, landing LDMs, and doing a really big hit when you’re behind has far greater effects on the judgement meter.
Ducked in here real quick, but how can you have a World Heroes discussion and not talk about Mudman?
One thing judgement does it make it easier for comebacks due to the fact attacks late in the round count more for the judgement meter. It reduces turtling I think without adding an imbalance. In fact, in the NC tournies, due to my near-complete lack of knowledge on XI and use of F-tier characters, I often have to win most of my matches on judgement. I suck, but hey, when you don’t play or care to play much- you gotta have some sort of gimmick.
As for 98. In the US, realistically, how many purists are there. The 98 community that exists competitively mostly plays online. I haven’t heard of too many offline 98 tournies. DG’s don’t count cause they all get cancelled ^_^.
My main concern is people doing things for the sole reason of aping the Japanese.
If I wanted apes in my fighters- I’d go play Kabuki Klash or something.
With judgement around, you might as well not have life bars. Just you and the opponent fighting for 99 seconds and when you come to the end you get judged.
Seems a little old fashioned, but when it comes to time out I personally like to let the difference in life bars dictate who wins and who loses.
i think the Judgment bar is what stopped me from really getting into XI… 98UM seems like it could be great…
DG whats up with the EVO vids?
It’s very hard to force a time-out in XI, even if you pulled something ultragimmicky like Jyazu/Athena/Kula. So it’s not like life bars are meaningless.
The question isn’t about which one is more exciting, but which one is absolutely fair. Health bars are fair, considering the fact that the whole point of the game (or any fighting game) is to lower your opponent’s life bar to zero before he does to you. If you lose the round because you have less health, well I dunno, BLOCK MORE or something.
And turtling is as legitimate as any way to play the game. Stating the fucking obvious here. Come on, we’re in 2007, not 1992.
I turtle more than Franklin the fucking Tortoise and I think the Judgement system is pretty damn fair.
In fact, it actually fits my style of play better…I usually have judgement in favor unless I’m facing someone who’s rushing me down and downing my team members.
Here’s the thing…if judgement keeps “screwing” you, why the hell are you not beating your opponent in 99 seconds?
GGPO
Why the hell should I? In any other fighting game, if I have the lead, the last thing I want to do is give away the game because I don’t want to fuck up a combo that I totally don’t even need to do in the first place. It’s called playing it safe, aka not doing any dumb shit. In kofxi, the computer tells me that if I keep playing it safe (turtling if I have to) then I’m going to lose. So you get to do what, combos because you have to please the computer? Fuck this bullshit, thanks for shitting on conventions, we were perfectly fine with the way it was.
By the way I rarely lost because of judgement, since rounds are usually long enough to finish a game without it. Still, games shouldn’t be decided by flash.
Nobody cares if you think it’s fair. You’re wrong.
Is it really all that hard to not get a timeout in XI? In every other KOF game I played, at least one of the rounds was up because of time over, and this even includes MIRA. I like running down the clock and forcing the other person to screw up especially when I have a lot more life at the end. It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out when I start playing XI.
Wow, snk is really kicking ass this year. Although i do have a some problem…where the hell is mark of the wolves, SS5S and SST?..oh and the last blade series too plz.
You’re an idiot, at least understand how the system works.
It’s not like Negative Penalty in GG…you DON’T lose Judgement for doing nothing WHEN YOU HAVE THE LEAD, retard.
AGAIN…COMBOS AND “FLASH” don’t always swing judgement in your favor. In fact, some combos like Vanessa’s infinites and Oswald’s Joker actually can LOWER your judgement. Yes, the game actually PUNISHES you for infinites and absurdly long juggles.
If people didn’t “shit on convention”, every fucking fighting game we have would be exactly like SF2.
Now we have a Judgement system that actually rewards smart players (whether they are rushdown OR turtle) and punishes people for using infinites and trying to chip someone to death and you say it’s not fair because it’s not “conventional”.
Again, I point to a boxing analogy.
If Boxer A hits with about 20 jabs in one round but Boxer B hits about 5 haymakers, 2 of which knock Boxer A on his ass, then who should get the most points to win the round?