After more testing, I realize my incoming setup with Strange’s Eye isn’t that good, so I’m messing around with Bolts now. Bolts give Dok some nice oki off of a raw HPB. After HPB, do: wave dash twice, cr.M and call Bolts, H cube, jump, adf, j.L, confirm/pressure. This will create an unblockable if the opponent techs forward, H cube will hit meaty on neutral tech for a full combo if it hits, and it can give you a free combo if they hard tag out (you’ll at least get a cube). Back techs don’t give you much in a rushdown sense, but you can begin zoning again easily.
Also, I think any team with Dok/missiles with another assist that helps with the unblockable reset can possibly do 300% much easier than the way I have in the video, thanks to the HPB + missiles incoming unblockable setup. So I don’t have to learn Dorm and I’ll just stick to Strange! (Hyper grav doesn’t help that much :()
I don’t know about everybody else but Dorm works really well with MODOK because of MODOK’s beam assist.
Fun Fact Dorm can make his stalking flare crossup by teleporting m after using the super, and then raw tag back into MODOK. So that’s a neat incoming setup people want to use MODOK/Dorm duo. The best part is if they don’t pushblock, you might be able to setup a unblockable for MODOK. If they do pushblock, they means that MODOK can try to do his unblockable reset setup. AKA crouching m>flight cancel>grab option select setup.
MODOK’s beam assist works well because it works exactly like Mag’s beam+Dorm mixup. So on a incoming character or on reset a character in midair with Dorm. This is because MODOK’s beam hits higher than Magneto’s beam, MODOK’s beam assist can catch people trying to jump. That means after chaotic flame, you can use MODOK’s beam assist to do teleport mixups instead of Dorm’s dark matter projectile. Mostly important, incoming characters will get hit by MODOK’s beam much easier than Magneto’s beam.
Here is a neat setup with Dorm on incoming character.
-Carpet, jump m, call MODOK’s beam assist. teleport, hit them with a S/H. You have a unblockable setup if they somehow block left/right mixup. Pushblock won’t matter because Dorm’s teleport tracks the oppotent, so the beam crossup them/or not. Pushblocking also makes it easier for MODOK’s beam to hit.
I think MODOK’s beam is the best assist for this team because Dorm has incoming mixups with that are REALLY good. MODOK’s bomb also has uses for MODOK/Dorm/Doom trio to as well those. Dorm can use MODOK’s assist in neutral combat to zone people out as well.
Does anyone know of any Firebrand and Modok synergy? Found a video of one player from the midwest running firebrand/modok/raccoon but FB didn’t seem to synergize too well. Not sure if there were any ways to setup either characters unblockables.
Dok and Firebrand have seem to have decent synergy, but nothing great. I’m not sure if Dok’s assists work well with Firebrand. Dok’s THC might be useful for Firebrand though. Firebrand’s easy corner carries into Dok TAC’s always kill, but if you’re good at infinites, that isn’t too much (though Dok TACs are easier IMO).
On the Dok side, Firebrand’s demon missile charge assist is good for combos and incoming setups. It’s probably decent for setting up mixups too (j.L, cr.L+assist, L cube, then high/low).
So, i use to play MODOK a bit in vanilla, but i never really took the game seriously =p
so now i think i want a 2nd team with Dok on it. im thinking of running modok (bomb)/Strange (bolts)/Dorm (Dark hole). opinions?
Thanks! I wouldn’t be sharing all of my tech when I can if I didn’t want it copied lol. Dok’s best assist is missiles IMO, but it’s at least one of the best. I feel like I can’t play Dok to the fullest potential without missiles… it helps Dok in a lot of close/bad matchups and makes Dok that much more dominant in the ones he wins. My side teams are pretty much a third of the cast with Dok/Missiles >_>
There are some decent combos to get Frank leveled up with that team (level 3 easy), but I haven’t explored it much. Frank/Dok THC is pretty good too (and sounds hilarious). Tools assist works alright for Dok combos and mixups, not so much shopping cart.
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i posted some videos in the frank west thread that are REALLY easy to do. Also i think Ironboy put a combo but that uses quite a bit of bar. anyway here are my thoughts on the team and some pointers
first of all, i feel like you either build around modok OR frank. I have two teams with these characters
ghost rider/frank west/modok
modok/frank west/doom
my first team revolves around getting frank west to level 4, which ghost rider can do easily, and a support modok can do easily too. anchor modok isn’t that great but i rely on my modok ability to win games if necessary cuz i think i’m pretty decent with the character
my second team revolves around modok. i use shopping cart assist to help lockdown my opponent for mixups and unblockables. the assist is bad for extending modok combos but i just rely on missiles for that extension. also, these videos help show ways to level frank quickly anyway.
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This combo builds 2 cubes which is necessary to deal enough hits to whiff into snapshot. also, make sure that all the hits of HPB hit before u cancel. that is what causes the hard knockdown in this case.
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of course, if you have at least 2 meter, you can always do any simple combo with frank and then THC. u dont’ need 3 bars, u just need modok to come out. make sure to mash this THC.
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and some simple stuff
I’m willing to explore it more while I also make teams based around each of these characters. Who would be a good 3rd for Fb/Modok? The obvious choice is Doom with missiles but I’m interested to hear other ideas.
For FB/MODOK I would say missles or jam session. Helps both characters unblockables, neutral and mixups.
Good MODOK/frank stuff. I have played around with that team a bit and it is nice if you want to use frank. Just to add to the lvl4 combo you posted you can do (crH airdash m)x2, S, sjmmhs, crm, flight, jS, l cube, S, sjmm, m cube hpb, DHC to frank for lvl4 from anywhere on the screen.
MODOK/Frank works pretty well especially if you use Doom/Dante/or heck Spencer.
MODOK’s S into the baby legs into the missiles into the bomb combo does a lot of hits, and like Caveman said HBP>DHC into frank works any where on the screen.
It can work. I’m running Dok(blaster)/Wesker(jaguar kick)/Strider(vajra) as a side team lately and it works out alright. Blaster works best for the team for teleport mixups and combo extension. Bomb has some interesting uses and barrier isn’t bad either, but Wesker and Strider like to have beams for those teleport mixups.
I would think Magneto or Morrigan would work alright on point with shield assist. Having Dok second is interesting in this case, since it doesn’t seem like you’ll be getting much assist support in neutral.
I wouldn’t be sharing all of my tech when I can if I didn’t want it copied lol. Dok’s best assist is missiles IMO, but it’s at least one of the best. I feel like I can’t play Dok to the fullest potential without missiles… it helps Dok in a lot of close/bad matchups and makes Dok that much more dominant in the ones he wins. My side teams are pretty much a third of the cast with Dok/Missiles >_>