Hey, KCXJ that shit’s great! I never knew that. Thanks so much.
ask buk thread huh? buk whats toptier in snake? worm, snake, or python?
s.mp with rolento actually does a decent job of stuffing vega c.mp and rolento c.mp stuffs vega’s c.hk even better (watch recovery though). kcxj, check the rolento cc thread for some more match analysis. i know im a scrub but that might help. ouroboros did some matchup stuff there too. AC vega and get knockdowns and mixup accordingly!!
heres a neat little sagat vs cammy trick i found out (maybe discovered before):
when cammy whiffs her s.rh she stands up for like a split second afterwards even if she wants to crouch right away. since youre sagat, if a rh whiffs in front of you you can actually s.fierce xx super that recovery. the timing and ranges are kinda strict but its doable, if you dont have meter you can just use s.mk for punishing her s.rh because you have a longer range.
Should I go for C-Sagat d.LK, s.LP, d.LK xx Tiger Raid more often? I always do the Glory combo of d.LK, s.LP, d.MK xx Low Tiger Cannon and I’m starting to think it sucks because I get better set-ups off a Tiger Raid super than I do with Low Tiger Cannon (cancel into one hit dp+HK) at midscreen.
Also, is linking the Tiger Uppercut after a s.LP or a d.LK still worth it when I can already do hit confirm d.LK, d.LK xx dp motion special reliably? Still try to link it? Or just cancel it? I can’t decide and I would like to know what the good Sagat players like Nitto or Choi do.
ahem: yes, no, no, yes, choi cancels (i think)
edit: yeah, this is getting really rediculous. i got $10 on you not getting out of pools.
kcxj, do u try to figure out what else u could ask buk, or do u really care if 2 crouching light kicks into uppercut is inferior to other variations of light attack combinations that lead into the uppercut anyways?
kcxj this is really getting rediculous. just go with whatever works for you.
Exact same thing with Hibiki’s standing close roundhouse xx dp+K overhead. Activate, turn on counter hit, it combos, turn off counter hit, it doesn’t.
same with kyo and his overhead
edit: his rdp+k overhead
You’re going to eat those words. You can say whatever you want online, but I’m warning you right now, even think about taking this attitude towards me off and I’m going to take it personally.
stop being so god damn hostile towards nice people. He’s just saying he thinks you’re a scrub so if you really want to put him in his place, don’t talk about oh i’m gonna beat you up or give you a mean face when i see you, just play him for money and show him why your superior questions are worth asking.
oh i thought kcxj “accepted” the bet with dentron. i must have read it wrong.
dentron’s been betting on everything (except on me winning my money matches :sad: ), don’t take it too personally.
guys, guys…don’t you know that linking a TU instead of comboing into it requires a distinction that merits lengthy discussion?
If you get used to comboing it, you’re gonna mess up one day! Cuz you’re gonna be like, c.lk, s.lp but WHOOPS they blocked your s.lp cuz you messed up that 3 frame link, and then you’re gonna look hecka stupid whiffing that fierce TU…I know this myself because I haven’t played in over a month and my timing sucks and I did that a lot! SJGL what what what
Ok that’s the best I could do with that question. I seriously don’t know any other reason to talk about it…and yes i was serious about me messing up the timing, jesse I think you’re gonna get some free money off of me :sad:
EDIT: whoops. change all instances of “comboing” into “cancelling”
yo, the discussion was on linking vs canceling, not linking vs comboing. wait, now that i think about it, you only get +2 on a c.lk, doesnt tiger uppercut come out in like 3 frames?
vasazn is right, ive been betting on hella shit regardless of any probabilities. i just think that occupying 60% of this thread with your questions (many of which can be answered on your own) wont get you farther in pools. The chance you will remember and be able to use 5% of the stuff you asked is basically nothing. GL on making it out of your pool and if you wanna bet then just say so. no hard feelings.
what’s the best way to RC a jab charge motion, ie vega’s jab rolling claw thing or guile’s jab sonic boom? i’m sure the answer is to negative edge, but can you give me more details?
oh yeah, duh…
well uh, linking tiger uppercut is gay!
Alright, this is my last post before Evo. Thanks to Buk and everybody else for all the help. I’m not going to have time to check this board anymore so don’t worry about any more of the questions.
I wish everybody the best of luck, and most important of all… stay confident against the Japanese! It looks like they all want to run some copy cat Ricky and NY tactics with Vega this year, so I don’t want to see a single person getting abused by jump staight up HK. Run the heck away if you’re playing Rolento or Maki, anti-air CC that shit if you’re running A-Scrub, and option select block, no hesitation TIGER UPPERCUT for all the beastly Sagats. I’ll see you all in Vegas.
I use double tapping method.
I charge downback, nuetrel roll, forward + roll, so you’re double tapping roll.I roll at the last moment to make sure the RC move comes out. Learn the timing in training mode, it’s pretty easy. I still cant find a way to RC lk moves… :sad:
Negative Edge is a bitch.
isn’t the answer double tapping? That’s what i do to RC jab charge moves. For vega, :db:, :lp: + :lk: , :r:, :lp: + :lk:, the jab rolling claw overrides the short flip kick (similar to how :hcf: + :lp: + :lk: for Ken overrides hadoken with funky kick).
edit: Hail and Kill beat me to it :tup:
Sorry… we don’t want to spoonfeed you. It’ll make you a better player later on… hehe.