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Hell yeah. I’m up for some matches pretty much anytime~

Its so sad. This game is SO underrated.
This guy has some new matches up.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RanOuttaBlock

Nice to see new videos, the level of play wasn’t that high overall but there were a bunch of interesting things I hadn’t seen before. Dio’s Freed couldn’t figure out how to deal with Cedric’s 2A, lol, poor Freed.

Extended Watson glitched combo, 2C, j.214B, 2C, j.214B, 2C. Works on Consumer version?
Throw, Low Bubble, super low j.236B, combo off bubble.

Freed tagging an extra hit off [2]8C in the corner with shadow hit of [4]6A only, into c.C as normal.

Coyori, After Heat Up juggle, reset with 236P into 5B for corner crossup. What other options here?

i cant belive that NOBODY plays this, i was messing around with Donvalve, and discovered two nice things:

1)parry + 5d 123123d does more damage than parry+wall bounce 123123d
2) you can activate supers and heat up at the same time! by either plinking or double tapping 2 buttons(with donvalve its 123123 and tap b+d twice)

  1. Off the HGD you can do j.D, 4C 236236K, among other things.
  2. That’s not Plinking, and you never have to double tap anything for instant heat up. You can use either negative edge, or the 3 button method, see the Instant Heat Up section here: http://www.dragoninstall.com/BatFan/tech.php

There really isn’t any situation where you’d need to instantly do a super and heat up at the same time, especially not with Donvalve. But you do need to know how to instant heat up a lot of specials and normals.

(Also- Donvalve Page)

this game sucks, you guys are weird

I found this tier list somewhere recently(forget where). Is it accurate?

S: Cedric, Watson, Ashley
A: Donvalve, Freed, Face, Marco
B: Coyori, DeathBringer, Odile & Dokurod, Urs
C: Olivia

Recently bought this game and been having some long sessions with some friends. FUN GAME.

wouldnt mind trying it over psn. add me if anyone want s to give it a go “Daitaiji”

Is this the only Battle fnatasia thread? i recall seeing a few others

Hey dunno about u guys in the States or anything, but I just bought this brand new from walmart for $10

so yeah, buy like 6 copies and give em out as gifts. Gonna fuck with this game in a minute or two. Feel free to add me if you wanna show me the ropes, or whup my ass like an unwanted stepchild

This one is a little outdated, a more accurate tier list would be

S: Cedric/Ashley/Face
A: Marco/Watson/Donvalve/DeathBringer
B: Coyori/Urs
C: Olivia/Odile/Freed

IMO Freed is more like B- and Olivia is solid B tier

btw, I’m lowtierhero on PSN if anyone wants to add me and get a few matches :smiley:

most recent

S: Cedric, Face, Ashley
A: Marco, Watson, Freed, Donvalve
B: Deathbringer, Koyori, Urs
C: Odile, Olivia

just played this game for the first time the other day, i really wish i got into it sooner. tatsu taught me the basics over a few hours and i really like how the game feels and its mechanics. thank you for the informative posts buktooth~

also cedric is beast

Just got this game a month or so ago and finally gave it a try. I know absolutely nothing about this game, but I’ve beaten Arcade mode with Urs and Ashley already. For someone just getting into this game, what would be the best way of learning how to play the game competitively?

n/a.

Not sure about Mango’s, but I know Leebee’s tier list came from the Japanese wiki. Unfortunately that whole wiki site is garbage, including the tier list. This list is a bit more accurate:

S Ashley, Cedric
A+ Watson, Marco
A Face, Deathbringer, Donvalve
B Olivia, Coyori, Urs
C Freed, Odile

Watson’s spot is kind of debatable. Once he has hit Level 3, he’s SS tier. But a fair number of characters can do a decent job of keeping him from getting that, or stop him once he has that. But he’s an absolute murder machine either way. On the arcade version, he’s easily SS tier all the time, due to having easy, easy infinites and being able to combo into meteors from any traps.

Cedric/Ashley, no real arguements to be made here. Ashley is weaker in the home version without his infinite but he’s still just good overall. His safe, instant overhead is really what pushes him into the S tier. Cedric … really he’s tops because he can combo off his throw. He’s a very, very solid character overall, but he has to be played unpredictably (due to all of his stuff being really easy to G-Counter), and having such a stupidly good throw really is what lets him do that to a decent effect.

No idea why anyone would put Face in the tops. He’s solid, but he has nothing bullshitty anywhere near the level of Ashley/Cedric/Watson/Marco. His damage is just average, his supers are just average. He has no reversals other than bazooka. Good pokes and good mixups and a cool hat.

Freed is low tier, but that’s not saying much as he’s still very good. He has no full reversals, period. Nothing he has is throw invincible. He has a lot of really bad matchups. He’s very meter dependant, but fortunately he’s good at building meter. You have to be very tricky and smart to play him well once people get past the initial shock of his Heat Up mode. He has great pokes and a great dash too.

Anyone who ranks Odile better than Olivia (or even in the same tier) just doesn’t know the game at all. Her projectile is completely garbage for all uses. Her ‘crossup’ attack (214K) does not actually cross up except under very specific situations, and on some characters will NEVER crossup. It’s also very punishable on block unless used in Heat Up or spaced VERY well against certain characters. Her dives are not overheads, and at best are +0 on block. Using them as part of a rushdown/mixup is always against Odile’s favor because her combos do terrible damage and her throw is awful. She has no reliable way to knockdown at midscreen. Her pokes are all significantly worse than Olivia’s. She is very meter dependent for damage but she builds meter the worst of any character in the game. That being said, she has a fair amount of decent stuff. Jump Cancelable 2D and 6B are great once you have meter. Corner mixups have a lot better payout since you can use resets in your favor. Crossup instant 2D is crazy good when used right when in the rare situation you get to use one. Harassing with block strings into 214C at least lets you safely fish for random hits while doing a tiny bit of chip and building a tiny bit of meter.

Olivia on the other hand… crazy, crazy good pokes and hit confirms. Insanely good at building meter. Great command throw, good mixups in general. Birds are stupidly good once you get them going. Lots of useful, advanced links. Tons of good moves with frame advantage. Her biggest weaknesses are probably her mediocre AA and lack of any reversal. If Rote Rose was a DP, she’d probably be close to Marco in terms of tiers. As it is, I’m always tempted to rate her higher than I do.

Note that this is all for Consumer mode, I have no idea what those other tier charts claim to be for. A few things change around in the Arcade/Original one, namely that Watson is SS tier, Donvalve moves up a bit, and Face and Freed are more or less D-tier.

Find some other people to play with you. There’s no competitive scene for the game but if you’ve got willing friends that shouldn’t be much of a problem. The netcode on the 360 release is garbage period. It’s playable if you can get a ping less than 40ms or so though. I’ve heard the PSN version actually has better netcode but I have no idea for certain.

Aside from that, there’s a lot of good info here: Battle Fantasia Complete Guide - Techniques

simple question:
thinking about getting this game along with ah3, blazblue cs, and mvc3.

does BF play like the other arc systems works creations:
hokuto no ken,
sengoku basara x,
guilty gear,
blazblue,
in regards to being able to do ground to air launchers leading into air combos?

can someone give me a breakdown of coyori’s B&Bs?

my cousin brought this up and I tried it out this last weekend. It was cool. Didn’t click but I like Coyori’s taunt. (btw we recorded vids which i’ll up so you can see us suck & mash)

lol this game

Still kind of miffed this died on impact. Shame, really.