Lately I been using Sanwa buttons on this new TE stick I purchased, and when I press down on them it’s like some kind of angel goddess blessed my joystick buttons to just press themselves.
Now I already had transparent Seimitsu buttons and was wanting to know if it was possible to mod these anyway to make them feel like Sanwa where you don’t really have to push with any force at all.
jdm714
August 14, 2010, 2:35pm
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Only with Seimitsu PS-14-K can you put in the standard Sanwa SW-68 Microswitch.
NRX
August 14, 2010, 3:15pm
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What jdm said, but also this (quoting jdm!) –
I’m planning to do this in my next stick actually; Sanwa RS-SG switches in PS-14-GN(???)s. We’ll see how they feel.
Right, and there is more than just the Slot being different.
Sanwa SW-68 cannot go fit the square hole of the PS-14-KN Body.
Sanwa RS-SG Microswitch can fit in the Body of Seimitsu PS-14-KN.
You can still use them though.
RoboKrikit used RS-SG in his PS-14-GN(???), which also uses same Microswitch as PS-14-KN.
What jdm714 said. All this really means is the plunger spins a little; the feel of the buttons with the RG switches is actually pretty nice, and they actuate just fine. They actuate early with lighter tension, similar to normal Sanwa buttons, but slightly stiffer (though less stiff than Seimitsus in general).
Note that because the female faces of the switch and plunger contact do not ‘mate’, the plungers are raised slightly higher than normal. They look like this:
http://deviation.org/sticks/hrapsa/hrap_black_buttons.jpg
I don’t understand why you would mod seimitsu to feel like sanwa if what you want is the feel of sanwa so why not just get sanwa? Am i confused here or something?
Art under buttons
Pick one.
Upas
August 14, 2010, 4:26pm
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He probably wants the clear buttons without the manly feel of the seimitsu buttons.
REAL MEN USE SEIMITSU.
He prefers the feel of Sanwa but wants the transparency of Seimitsu I guess.
Edit: Upas beat me to it, but I support Seimitsu :3
Real men/women break sanwa and have go to seimitsu little sanwa can’t handle us /flex, Ah i guess thats cool for looks
NRX
August 14, 2010, 5:12pm
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Yeah, I want art under my buttons, but I’m just too used to Sanwa feather-sensitivity to fool around with manly Seimitsus. If only Sanwa still made OBSCs…
dude just swap the top part, on the bottom part of the button are 2 tabs keeping the top from flying off. Just squeeze both sides and pull it out then swap
I hate Sanwa garbage. You hover the buttons and get unintentional EX moves all day.
I’ll post up a pic of a stick that I’m finishing tomorrow. RG switch inside a PS-14-KN rim. It’s doable, just a little bit more expensive.
Edit: I just realised I already have a pic of the case and buttons:
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae335/OD09/100_0610.jpg
The artwork will go on tomorrow and the rims light up orange (the 6 buttons on the top panel). The 3 orange buttons on the front light up with a green circle (originally white PS-14-DN painted orange). A lot more sensitive than Seimitsu buttons. The case still needs a cleaner paintjob though.
OSBF/N’s and PS-14K’s have different sized microswitches. Their plungers won’t fit with the other. Best bet is to use the RG switches, but I don’t know if they are stiffer than the SW-68.
jdm714
August 14, 2010, 9:51pm
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Actually, the OBSF-30 and OBSN-30 have same Microswitch size as PS-14-K.
And Sanwa SW-68 can be switch to Seimitsu PS-14-P and PS-15 also.
Nope.
Plunger from Seimitsu PS-14-KN will not work with the Sanwa OBSF-30.
Look at this:
http://akihabarashop.jp/misc/Changeplunger.jpg
Sanwa OBSF-30 Base; Sanwa OBSF-30 Plunger; Seimitsu PS-14-KN Plunger.
The rectangular hole that hits the Microswitch is different on Sanwa and Seimitsu.
Enlarge the hole on PS-14-KN Plunger somehow and rotate Plunger 90°.
Now knowing that, you probably say, “Then can’t I just use the Seimitsu Microswitch on Sanwa Button? That way I can use Seimitsu PS-14-KN Plunger?”
No, that will not work.
The Microswitch on Seimitsu PS-14-KN is much bigger than Microswitch on Sanwa OBSF-30.
But get this.
Seimitsu PS-14-KN can take Sanwa RS-SG Microswitch.
Give that some thought.
Now would that allow Sanwa OBSF-30 Base to take Seimitsu PS-14D and PS-14-K Plunger?
jdm714:
Thank you very much for that detailed information. I think I will see how the seimitsu buttons feel and go from there. I wish seimitsu still made the K series or offered the PS-14D microswitches in all there buttons so we could use the sanwa SW-68 switches. Wonder why they changed to the 14G, is it a better switch then the 14D??
Seimitsu didn’t switch from making PS-14D to PS-14G.
Seimitsu PS-14D are in:
Seimitsu PS-14G are in:
It looks like the PS-14D (which is smaller than PS-14G) used in 24mm Buttons.
But that is not really the whole case.
So there is nothing about PS-14G being better than PS-14D.
I made this video tutorial for a member here on srk long time ago, peep this:Video - Click Here
Goddammit. I totally meant PS-14KN.
was looking for something like this but i actually wanted to switch the seimitsu button rims to the blue but keep the clear cap (like you can do with sanwa nowadays). do i have to buy another set of seimitsus just to swap?
Yes, you have to buy another set of buttons if you want to do the plunger/rim swap with seimitsu.
dangit :(, was hoping i wouldn’t have to resort to that