Anyone else think the gameplay is a joke?

[Mnszyk]

What a dumb fuckin post.

You’re basing your opinion off of a barebones “starter pack” version of SFV. You haven’t even given this game a chance to evolve before shitting on it. 3 days of gameplay? I highly doubt you’ve learned everything there is to learn about the game in 3 days.

You sound like a cheeto-crumb wearing neckbeard. “kuh this game is soooo easy I’m above this” -pushes in duct taped spectacles against the fat folds between his brow and the bridge of his nose-

Whatever though, you’re entitled to your opinion no matter how trash it is. To expand on what was previously stated by others on this thread, you might as well go back to SFIV or tiddlywinks or whatever else you play with that kind of attitude.

Your comment is dumb. The gameplay itself isn’t going to get better with more characters.

His comment is ridiculously aggressive and obnoxious, but the number of people that don’t seem to understand that games develop over time is crazy.

You need time to dig down into a game to create depth. People need to invent strategies, then other people invent counter-strategies, then other people invent counter-counter-strategies. You don’t just buy the game off the rack and it comes with a metagame for $4.99 extra.

The gameplay itself is going to get better (or worse, if it turns out to be a bad game), because “the gameplay” doesn’t exist yet.

[Mnszyk]

Most times, if you’re trying to get into someones grill, and trying to lock them down with normals, they can just mash on jab and get out of it.

You should probably focus on fixing that.

Dummy record: guard recovery. Necalli. Crouching jab (3 frames). Here’s frame data if you want it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1976rt8B91PqVCeYJAmcnW1uwVJ0H03QJtV-dJC5ohL8/htmlview?sle=true#

Counterhits grant +2 frame advantage. Go forth.

[FGC_Oni]

I agree on a couple of points. I hoped and wanted this game to be better but it is what it is. Iv only used Ryu so I can only speak with a limited point of view.

The anti-airs are a joke, you have to predict the jump instead of reacting. The only option you have on reaction is to use ex dp. I don’t have enough fingers on my hand to count the times I hear “shoryuken” and eat an air hk. And wtf is up with wake-up dp being stuffed by normals?

My other gripe is with the damage output. I’m playing footsies and outplaying my opponents most of the time, putting in a lot more work and effort than them. They get in 2 normals and its back to square 1. Its almost like you don’t have a health bar.

Also the game feels too defensive, I don’t understand the rush it down advertising when you don’t even have reliable low hitconfirms to open people up. The only “rush down” I see is blockstrings with minimal risk mixed up with throws.

Its one thing to like the game but if people can’t admit its faults I think that they are overexcited from the fresh release.

SFV has potential. Given time its going to evolve like any other FG and most of the newbie stuff won’t work. But we are speaking about it in its current state so it can hopefully get better. I feel the game rewards sloppy and chaotic play too much.

Edit: Scratch the anti-air dp part i’m stupid. Medium dp is the one to use…

I’m almost certain I got grabbed out of a wake-up EX DP last night lol.

[Rabbit2k7]

The anti-airs are a joke, you have to predict the jump instead of reacting. The only option you have on reaction is to use ex dp. I don’t have enough fingers on my hand to count the times I hear “shoryuken” and eat an air hk. And wtf is up with wake-up dp being stuffed by normals?

yeah totally. srk is the only way to aa anyone. i feel bad for any character that isnt ryu or ken, because its impossible for them to anti air. RIP the rest of the cast.

[Mood4food77]

birdie’s cr. HP is a ridiculous anti air

[evilj]

game seems more simple but I actually like it because it seems more in your face than sfiv. Nothing aggravated me more than watching early sfiv matches and watching balrog stand back and focus attack backdash fireballs all day long and use crouching jab to get out of everything.

[Greenwood]

Oh you mean like footsies where the hit box is so off the guys leg goes through my sprite?

How have you been here for 14 years and you still don’t understand what a hurt box is? You can’t be that retarded, can you?

[DevilJin_01]

As long as blocking is difficult, SFV will have plenty of depth.

[Mr.X]

The less it plays like sf4 the better.

[Pertho]

Man gets tired of playing footsies in a street fighter game.

Ha!

[bananaclawz]

Street Fighter 4 was pretty bland, with Sagat’s instant kill Tiger Uppercuts, Ryu’s HP Shoryuken Tiger Uppercut FADC Ultra.

Game just started. If it’s too Simple then you should be Ranked No.1, eclipsing simplicity.

[Beganoo]

Street Fighter 4 was pretty bland, with Sagat’s instant kill Tiger Uppercuts, Ryu’s HP Shoryuken Tiger Uppercut FADC Ultra.

Game just started. If it’s too Simple then you should be Ranked No.1, eclipsing simplicity.

Its simple if you have the SF fundamentals down.New players have a lot to learn but there should some more advanced things for SF veterans. Also I never said the better player doesn’t win in this game.Of course he does and there are plenty of better players then me. What I said is that its boring to play because of the simplicity.

[Cipher]

Its simple if you have the SF fundamentals down.New players have a lot to learn but there should some more advanced things for SF veterans. Also I never said the better player doesn’t win in this game.Of course he does and there are plenty of better players then me. What I said is that its boring to play because of the simplicity.

I learn all the new moves,frames and characters, how to fight them and how to level my game up.
There’s enough deep.

[Korbidon]

If you like doing combos why would you play SF anyway? Lot’s of better games than SF for combo based games.

[itsOneO]

I like the gameplay overall and how everybody pretty much hits a truck. It turns into a game of patience and nerve, which reminds me of SSF2T.

All SFV is missing is that feature/mechanic that makes the game fun to watch. The easiest/quickest way to do this is by opening up the combo system a bit. Make Crush Counter more flexible.

[Nu-Skoool]

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You’re stating exceptions to the rule, not the standard. SF2, Alpha, 3 all had normals with generally further pushback and links were not a as prevalent as they were in 4.
In Alpha, barring V-ism and jump-ins, standard bnbs utilized two hit confirms, 2in1’s, or 3 crouching shorts, which is something 3s also had, but was something that was specific to crouching characters. Therefore two hit confirms were the norm in those games.
Not until 4 did it become the standard for the majority of the cast to have 3+ hit, confirms that worked regardless of an opponents positioning.
In the meantime keep clicking that LOL button and getting into arguments in which I can prove you wrong time and time again.

[Koricthegreat]

I only played the game once for like 2 hours. The footsies is nice and I feel like I’m counter hit fishing. I like how certain attacks get you that critical counter thing. I got pretty comfortable playing Karin in that one sitting. I think the game is very simplified and you can learn it fast. I think this is good. A low learning curve is good for getting started with the game fast. Sounds like people are worried about the games depth.
Parry’s and cancels like guilty gear? I think that sounds dumb. That’s what equals depth? People always playin the parry card. "add parries it’ll make the game great! omg I worship parries!"
Sorry, I was making a serious comment…now I’m just mocking.

[Baldulf]

I agree with the OP. It does feel simple and bland, for lack of a better term. SFIV’s metaplay revolved around extending combos and doing mix-ups basically. SFV, however, feels more footsie oriented. I’m not saying this is a bad thing per se, but it feels like they took back whatever options they gave us in SFIV and said “Here, go back to Alpha 3 and 3S days” (both series-defining games, for sure, but what I’m saying is, next to nothing from SFIV is in here).

Thanks, you have defined exactly why I’m loving SFV after hating the hell out of SFIV.

Its back to Alpha3 and 3S days and I’m having a blast (when netcode allows, of course)

[Dime]

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You’re stating exceptions to the rule, not the standard. SF2, Alpha, 3 all had normals with generally further pushback and links were not a as prevalent as they were in 4.
In Alpha, barring V-ism and jump-ins, standard bnbs utilized two hit confirms, 2in1’s, or 3 crouching shorts, which is something 3s also had, but was something that was specific to crouching characters. Therefore two hit confirms were the norm in those games.
Not until 4 did it become the standard for the majority of the cast to have 3+ hit, confirms that worked regardless of an opponents positioning.
In the meantime keep clicking that LOL button and getting into arguments in which I can prove you wrong time and time again.

Sorry, but once again you are wrong. As I said, if characters don’t have long confirms in those games… They don’t need them because they have safe on block specials instead. As a rule. Not EVERY character, but the vast majority of them.

In old school games not named streetfighter 3you either have a safe on block special to cancel into and there for no need to confirm, and there for its a confirm in itself, or you have long confirms. That’s the rule, not the exception.

I think I will now go ahead and throw you that LOL… Good call.

[Nu-Skoool]

I refuse to be pulled into another discussion with you beyond this point since you’ve demonstrated a clear lack of knowledge, and understanding, in addition to poor discussion skills. You’re obviously set in your ways and there’s nothing that can dissuade you from them. Good luck with the game.