Sadly, SFV’s online component is AWFUL for new players.
Well that’s the thing you’re already at the water, but since you’re a horse you won’t drink it.
You have plenty of people here you can talk to and connect with to play games with until they add chat and other functions to CFN. Which characters do you like playing? Go introduce yourself in some of the character threads, get people’s CFN’s and start going in.
Oh, you mean I can connect with people, lose to them repeatedly, then not be able to talk to them?
WOAH! I hadn’t thought of that! That would change my experience entirely! I’m so glad it’s MY FAULT for not drinking that water. Thanks for enlightening me.
The Hype got me!
Purchase SF5, then went on to purchase a PS4, then purchase a Hori VLX Kuro and then spend 35 dollars on Sanwa buttons and a ball top.
Listen prettttttyyyy carefully.
Some guy I’ve never even heard of by the name of @TINYANGRYCRAB who I am a bit better than but was still competitive, had the insight to ask for my Skype name (AND I HAVEN’T USED SKYPE IN 6 MONTHS) and we talked on the phone through skype while playing our matches. This guy is probably only slightly less new to competitive fighting games than you are and had this insight. He asked ME to give HIM tips on his play while we were playing and that’s what I did. It wasn’t just “oh I’m going to sit here and let him beat me up and not learn anything”. He as the learning player was the one who initiated the engagement.
Now with that aside, I’m just trying to tell you that there is a lot of resource and ways for you to get good. Yes, the game should have more of it in at launch, but it’s no excuse to just act like you are in some void with no tools. Ask people, put some things together and get started. I’ll even PM you after this just to get you more acquainted if you choose to respond.
You don’t actually have to answer this (in fact, please don’t), but where do you live? There’s a good chance there’s some sort of local competitive scene somewhere around you where you can face people in person. It might just be a matter of looking it up. You might still lose a lot, but most people in the FGC are more than willing to help you as long as you ask. Don’t let the online community sour your experience. A lot of those people aren’t really a part of the FGC. Just online trolls who are ok at fighting games. People online are a million times worse than the real life people. It can be hard to distinguish between them though.
If you live in some more obscure area, there might not be a local scene, but you can always try finding someone online that seems trustworthy. Talk to them over Skype or some other form of online communicating. I know that’s a bit sketchier but if there really is no one in your area who can play with you, it’s not a bad option.
There’s A LOT more resources for getting better at fighting games than you might think. Sometimes it’s not even about playing. I personally have gotten a lot better just by watching instructive videos or seeing what top players do and finding out why they do it. I’m still not good, but it’s helped me improve a lot from where I was not too long ago. That way of getting better may not be for everyone, especially if you’re newer, but it’s an option.
Sorry you have had a bad experience dude
I played them off and on for a few years then really picked them up in 2011 when I met some IRL buddies who were way into it, especially KOF games and SF4
I encourage you to try and figure out if there is anyone offline you can play, or perhaps start at the same time as a friend, that was the best for me as we were able to get better together
I think a lot of the hostility you are getting is consistent with what you get in all online games, at least consistent with my experience in high ranked DOTA over the years as well
The FGC really shines in offline interactions, online gaming is really dehumanizing and you just assume the worst about your opponent naturally, really try to give it a shot offline and see if that doesn’t work better for you
Big emphasis on this. Playing with friends offline is always WAY better than even the best online games, even if those are also with friends. It also helps you get less frustrated when playing people in person because you don’t want to embarrass yourself by visibly getting angry, even if you don’t know those people. But finding people you know to play with is definitely the way to go to start off.
That’s really the roots of the FGC too. I wasn’t around for it but all the OGs got their starts by playing against people in arcades. Maybe good console ports too but there was still no online. If you wanted to play someone across the country, you had to GO across the country. And over time, you’d become friends or at least friendly rivals with the people you’d play often and make new friends along the way. At least that’s my understanding.
MKX gives frame data for free, has online lobbies with more than two people, and doesn’t have pixelated character models though.
There’s probably some more things I’m forgetting, or simply don’t know, but at least with that game you feel like you didn’t get a rushed project.
Use the forums. There’s alot more communication going on in the community’s forums than in the game itself.
It’s all just basically a continuation of how the community grew out during the turn of the millennium and majorityall of the community stuff was built by the grassroots. It’s why almost every the major fighting game communities tend to congregate around their own community created forums (Shoryuken, Dustloop, Tekken Zaibatsu, FreeStepDodge, 8WayRun, Test Your Might, etc.), instead of the official ones (and also why majority of big tournaments are also grassroots run ones).
As for in game chat, it’s probably a Nintendo-esque decision on their part to shield some players from the trash talk that the FGC is known for. I mean, I’m pretty sure they don’t want any Justin Wong’s welcoming kids to “the real world” and that they “gonna learn today”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkapfBYIfc
The thing to remember is that, the difference between MOBA communities and the the developers have less control over the latter. The grassroots heavy nature of the latter (and the fact that the people in charge - many from the community - don’t want to let go of that) means that Capcom can’t do as much in terms of policing. They can’t really ban anyone from competing since they don’t run the tournaments (except the final Capcom Cup), and they don’t really seem to want to, at least not for trash talking, especially since there are a few people on top who do want to position fighting games as the “UFC or Boxing of eSports” (this was one of the big bullet points in the IPL deal with SFIV, before the latter folded) and are fine with the trash talk (over the squeaky clean, “professional” image that MOBA seem to want).
Wait for battle lounge before you give it up. This game isn’t the best example of how online fighters should flow. In fact it’s probably the worst at the minute.
You’re playing a $60 beta , trust me. The patch should rectify these things, if it doesn’t I doubt you’ll be the only one throwing this in the bin.
I loved that video when it came out. I’d much rather have that kind of interaction than one where I just get super lonely playing during an evening while talking to literally no one. The trash talk is at least communication.
the game looks like it has potential, but honestly, I just dont like any of the characters… I’m just playing casually till they add my fav characters (if they ever do that is…).
This game is simple. I liked 4 bc I could play footsies and outlame the other player. Same thing with Third Strike. In this game, you have to play rushdown, you get way too much mileage off of oki to not play that way.
And one thing I’ve noticed about this game is that it’s a lot more centered around oki and a lot less centered around footsies than people pretend it is. Just bc you’re spending less time on the ground doesn’t mean there’s more footsies being played.
I do enjoy this game, though. I don’t think it’s as good as 4, and 4 isn’t “overloaded” with mechanics as someone said earlier. There’s nothing wrong with having defensive options. 5 has much better balance, but with the small roster, I can’t see how that would be difficult for a design team. I like that every character is exaggerated in how different they are from each other. I mean, shoto clones are fun to play in 4, but I like the current character diversity in 5. As much as I dislike not having defensive options in 5, I can’t really imagine any character being able to abuse this game’s mechanics the way Rose could abuse focus and backdash invincibility in 4, so that’s good.
At the end of the day, the name of the game will always be “Adapt or Die”. Adapt to the game, or don’t. Keep playing 4 if you want. I will. Keep playing 3S if you want. I will. SF5 is a simple game to me, but I’m not the best in my scene. So I’ll keep playing 5, too.
Also, I have no idea why people are complaining about backroll. Just walk the opponent into the corner if they keep backrolling. It’s not that hard. They can only backroll and avoid the guessing on wakeup so many times before they hit the corner. And then the matchup becomes 7-3 in your favor. It won’t make the game a “snorefest”. Just don’t play like an idiot.
Who your favorite character?
Okay full disclosure…since I party-up with friends a lot to chat with them I literally hadn’t even realized there was no in-game chat with opponents.
That is goddamn pathetic.
Good lord, Capcom, other than raw gameplay did you do ANYTHING correct in this game? Empirical evidence suggests: no. No they did not do a single thing presentation or support-wise correctly.
People need to be straight-up fired over this. This is incompetence of a level that is totally baffling and that just leaves me repeatedly asking “How?! How could a legitimate company release a product like this unless they wanted to look bad?”
This was way more fun than just playing randoms on ranked, also! After a while it’s just like hanging out with somebody while doing an activity, it’s fun and you don’t have to wait 90seconds between matches
It seems at the moment the only good about SFV is the RAW gameplay.
RAW is WAR