CS doesn’t have a single player campaign so it isn’t casual-friendly and it’s killing the FPS scene. /rabble rabble rabble
But its online works, it has anti cheat protection, you can chat with people and it doesn’t cost 60 bucks.
…hahahahahahahaha.
Oh, you kids are hilarious. Seriously. “casual” “Hardcore” hahahahaha.
Simple mathematics from overall game sales vs tournament registrants+stream viewers = casual to hardcore ratio. The percentage of “casuals” has always been an order of magnitude higher then “hardcore”. It’s not even close. Kids, this is grade school math.
Oh, and one more thing: everyone that has ever registered on this forum, EVER, that does not routinely meet the following criteria:
-Top 8 finishes at majors. No, your local scene of 14 dudes doesn’t count. This is the Final Rounds, The SCR/NCR’s, the CEO’s of the year. If you don’t place top 8 consistently at some or all of these, or are a threat to every time you enter then “casual” you are.
-Makes a living off fighting games.
-Sponsor…not every pro is sponsored…most have been at some point though.
Didn’t check anything off that list? CASUAL. I don’t care if you spend all day and night in the lab working on your shit, you don’t get it done consistently at majors, then your a damn casual.
The difference between you(and that you goes to anyone looking down on “casuals”) and me is I know I’m casual. I study matchups, work on combos, setups, execution and watch tournaments all the time. (I’d go to more events if my career allowed the travel time)
Ya’ll are so deluded into thinking your “hardcore” when your not. Your nothing more then wannabe-hardcore posers who are to intellectually challenged to even understand that.
THAT is the thing I find so damned amusing. Ya’ll are fucking HILARIOUS.
CS:GO doesn’t do enough to show newbie how to play FPS games, so the newbie is experience is logging on and getting raped, which is bad for the development of the genre. /rabble rabble rabble
Unless have a Ryu tattoo on your genitals, you’re a filthy casual. See look, I can make up arbitrary definitions that only I use too.
CS is also routinely less popular than CoD, and I think less popular than Destiny, but the comparison is weird since CS is a living product with a consistent user base while CoD is on an annual release cycle with spikes and Destiny is an MMO with higher engagement but likely lower recurring pop.
Either way, CS is not in the top 10, let alone the top 5. It’s a very visible steam game, but it’s still a small fry compared to things like Hearthstone, LoL, or Clash of Clans.
LoL didn’t for a long ass time either. Team games are inherently more enjoyable experiences when you’re new than solo vs games. It’s a lot easier to just fuck around and have fun arranging hostages in CS than it is in SF.
Yeah, but mine actually make sense as a criteria, cupcake. Yours is just stupid. As is anyone who tattoos anything on his/her genitals.
One more time: srk was not made for single player. Talking about single player stuff here is largely irrelevant. If you want to feel good about some random achievement in beating the computer, gamefaqs and capcom unity have you covered. The only time casual players have an impact on the community is when they want to join it. Other than that its shrugs.
We know they outnumber us. But our events have also been growing. This community needs to worry about itself, not the people that dont want any part of it.
I don’t know about that. Having played LoL a decent bit myself, I always thought the worst thing about playing it was the other players. Talk about a toxic, scrubby mess of a community.
But no, it really, really doesn’t. It might in your head, but in reality you’re describing a small subset of the hardcore community.
Yeah the community can be rough, but it’s easier to cruise around with teemo and have fun as a new player than it is to get bodied as ryu. The community is what happens around the core gameplay, just as it is in fighting games. Team games just pad the mat so you don’t break something when you fall.
…the events are growing because casuals are turning into hardcores, not the other way around. Spouting nonsense about how “casuals” are a cancer to the genre or some other such nonsense can potentially drive away those very players.
This shouldn’t even be an “us” versus “them” thing. It should be all-inclusive, if you truly want growth, you’ll stop with this garbage.
I mean, having people in the FGC and on here spouting how much they hate casuals doesn’t really seem like a smart way to turn those casuals into the next generation of EVO champions, does it? I’m sure Daigo, Justin Wong, Infiltration were all hardcore folks when they first saw the game. I’m sure they picked up the stick thinking they were going to win tournaments and shit, right?
…except they weren’t. Justin Wong did an interview for the “I Am Street Fighter” documentary during the 25th Anniversary a couple years back. He flatly stated he was just a kid who wandered into an arcade one day, and became hooked on fighting games.
Justin Wong. One of the biggest names the FGC has, started as a casual.
Imagine that.
I do love CvS2’s, only because I have zero people to play it with.
I binged the fuck on MvC2’s until I got online, and by that time I had developed so many bad habits… yeah. Fuck that shit.
1 player mode was entirely relevant to me until online FGs were worth it.
I think events may be growing due to increased Twitch driven exposure more than anything else.
Yes, and it’s getting those casuals an easy window into what the FGC is like. They see it, and it thus makes them want to be a part of it.
Srk is an enthusiast community. By virtue of not being competitive, we do have a lot of casual players. I havent attended a proper tournament in years. By definition i am casual.
On the other hand, we do take the gameplay seriously. More importantly its versus gameplay that we care about. Single player stuff, outside of training mode, doesnt help you get better at fighting opponents hence it isnt something that gets discussed. Discussing it then results in an even bigger losing proposition because that isnt the goal of this place or the community that uses it.
It’s what got me. If only the process of actually trying to play this game was as fun as WNF looks.
I’m the only person on this page that joined as a result of SFV. Like half this thread has been here over 5 years. SRK is an enthusiast community, but so is community Bingo. You gotta get new blood somehow.
This is true. However, do you really think when someone comes here asking about such, that the best response would be to talk down at them and insult them? No, you(again, general “you”) should be pointing them in the right direction to up their game. I know I’d be turned off this community, and the FGC if I had just picked up my first fighter, came to the biggest forum on the net to discuss the single player portion(where everyone starts) only to be met with words like “cancer” or “filthy casual”.
That isn’t how you help grow a community. It doesn’t matter how few they(those asking about single player content) may be. Acting in that fashion has the exact opposite effect on growth your talking about.
Don’t come at me because I’m trying show those “casual single player” folks that not everyone in this community thinks there a cancer, or whatever term you wish to use.
I’ll address this elaborate later but a lot of the problems when people make assumptions out of this place and then get mad because things dont work how they thought it would in their heads.
More importantly people misunderstand what this place is for. We are here for the versus screen. Everything else is there for single player and unhelpful bitching. Dont bring those two things to a place that isnt going to stand for it and then get mad at how you were treated.
Then you should probably work on your branding because Reddit is likely a larger community at this point robbing you of the ‘worlds largest’ title and your front page says nothing about the inherent doucheyness of catering solely to veterans while telling everyone else to fuck off.
Maybe rebrand as the oldest forum? Grumpiest? Most insular?
Man, this fighting game elitism shtick is so fucking old and overdone. Give it a rest. Both games have high level competitive play.
You being bad at a game doesn’t make it a “casual fest”, whatever the fuck that means.
I don’t know if I’m a vet but I’m very into playing the game and getting combos down but at the same time I do really like the story and characters.