American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

I can’t stop laughing about shitholes.

Mexico is a shithole. As a Mexican I don’t blame others from wanting to come in…but how many truly improve when they come in. Looking at Europe, not many brown people who came in as refugees are improving those places.

Mexico is so fucked due to cartels.

I loved the responses from Norwegians. :lol:

Relevant:

He does this other people he should not be doing this to to other people who think he’s unhinged. Calls up random major business leaders, rambles about some utterly “brilliant” plan he has had right then, and then goes to bed and nobody else understands what the hell happened or is going to happen.

When/if he’s no longer our President, I’m curious if more of these stories come out. He’s a weird-ass guy.

Yea looks like Norwegians don’t care too much to move to shitholes. :rofl:

Someone take me off the Trump train. I can’t take all this winning!

I’m glad we elected a president with such strong Christian values.

You sure did. Although it depends on what everyone’s definition of those values are.

Norwegians SAY they don’t want to come to the US, but then I realised Norway is only like, a tiny block of 5 million people.

When you take those immigration figures and compare them to their home population, Norway’s immigration rate is actually higher than China or Japan.

Just for fun, in 2016:

Australia (#2 on HDI behind Norway): 4173 / 26,000,000 ≈ 0.00017
Sweden: 1325 / 10,065,389 ≈ 0.000136
Denmark: 562 / 5,748,769 ≈ 0.000098
Netherlands: 1550 / 17,170000 ≈ 0.00009
Norway: 404 / 5,267,146 ≈ 0.000076
Spain: 4018 / 46,560, 000 ≈ 0.000086

China: 77658 / 1,379,000,000 ≈ 0.000056
Japan: 5709 / 127,000,000 ≈ 0.000045

If one of those values is getting peed on by Stormy Daniels, then I guess I’m a born again Christian.

That’s fair. But the point is, they still don’t want to go there.

Also… More winning from the old racist grandpa that learns about the world from Fox news.

Well, thing is, therein lies the Norse hypocrisy and ignorance of their own trends.

Their emmigration rate to the US is higher than France and Germany, too.

France works out to about 0.000065.
Germany about 0.000071.
Italy about 0.000072.

The Norse emmigration is directly comparable to the largest European nations. Their reasonings sound rather bullshit too, to be frank, given the numerous other nations with free/socialised healthcare, education and gun control, etc.

Ultimately, forget about the normalised numbers.

When you look through that table in absolute terms, much of the immigration listed does come from places people would commonly consider shitholes for some reason.

Regardless of how he phrases it, Trump actually is asking a valid question. And if the answer is “Well, we don’t WANT to come to your shithole”, then that should be sounding alarms amongst the American public.

What’s bullshit about it, oh King of Australia?

Ah, Preppy, same old insults. Maybe Norway has a point about you after all.

Norway’s making the same old excuses about socialised programs and gun control (Anders Brevik anyone?); despite the significantly higher emigration from comparable countries like mine, the other Scandinavian nations, Canada and the UK and basically the rest of the West that have those same programs.

Again, Norway says it doesn’t want to come over, but comparatively, they’re still migrating more than countries vastly inferior to it.

I mean, I don’t necessarily blame them for staying home. Norway’s a small, ethnically homogenous country with abundant resources, after all.

Calling you King of Australia is not an insult, I don’t think. But then again I like Australia and have a picture of my pet wombat in my office. I thought my love for Australia was clear.

I’m sorry for triggering you with my flirtatious love, snowflake. I realize you’re trapped in a nomadic wasteland and don’t understand anything but trial by fire swords - which again I think proves what a man you must be to have become King of the Fire Sword Everything Wants To Kill Us Wasteland, but I am in a land of free soda pop and jelly beans and am full of love.

And jelly beans.

The only time Australia is ever relevant is when you got that one friend camping in there in a game of Risk.

You’ll have to be more clear, sorry. You keep mange-ridden marsupials as pets?

Jelly beans are delicious, I agree.

Damn straight.

Are you THAT GUY?

Wait, who isn’t that guy? This is SRK, right? Play to win? Australia has always been the key to world conquest.

I actually haven’t played Risk, but camping sounds like something I’d do.

I saw somewhere today that the number of Americans moving to Norway is higher than the reverse. That’s true in absolute numbers, but when accounting for population, Norwegians move to the US nearly three times more.

In 2014 (latest year I could find for both countries data), 8,652 Americans immigrated to Norway. That works out to 0.000027.
In 2014, 332 Norwegians immigrated to the US. That works out 0.000064.

Like…I’m clearly not smart with numbers, but it does actually look like the US is more appealing to Norway than they want to admit.