Wasted
February 20, 2018, 10:20am
701
So? They wouldn’t have cried a damn tear if they were raffling an SKS or ACR.
Good on the school for not giving a fuck about feels.
Remind me to cry at the next Holden Commodore raffle. After all, one was used to murder 6 people and injure another 30 or so.
dab00g
February 20, 2018, 11:01am
702
Darksakul:
Wasted:
Darksakul:
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Pertho:
need to dig up the gun control thread we had here in GD. It was actually really good and an SRKer made a good post talking about some of the issues surrounding some of the bans.
either way, not really sure why the AR is used in a lot of things, probably because the name is popular. You can change the stock of the rifle from plastic to wood and people will find it to be less scary; same caliber weapon, same magazine size, one is somehow seen as more dangerous than the other.
Its why I hate the term assault weapon, its a oxymoron and it shifts blame off the issue and muddle the issue.
And Pertho is right, change the stock, hand grips and a few minor details and a AR looks like a old fashion hunting rifle.
Also I am often floored how stubborn people are when it comes to explaining what Semi-auto really means.
Semi-auto don’t mean automatic, or 3 round burst. It means the gun ejects the spent casting, re-cocks the firing mechanism, loads and chambers the next round automatically instead of manually operating the bolt of a rifle to do the same process. Semi Automatics does not mean rapid fire.
Yes this makes it physically easier for a shooter to take the next shot but at the same time once loaded the only parts of the gun that can move is the trigger, hammer and firing pin.
In many ways semi-automatics are safer:
Unfortunately, the masses do not care about semantics. All they hear are rapid gunshots, that kill lots of people.
Strictly speaking that’s not correct, as most gun deaths are suicides. But you’re still right that more people are killed by accidents than massacres.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org
The masses are fucking sheep following the dribble presented by the media who only sensationalize everything.
Which such strong reactions, people who don’t buy into the panic/hype gets a knee jerk reaction and desperately hang on to their own guns.
The two things the US needs for Gun legislation
Uniform gun laws across all 50 states
Enforcing the actual laws on the books
Before you can try to talk about stricter laws and regulations, lets fix the existing issues with gun control first.
The gun laws in california, illinois, and ny are extremely restrictive. But people get their hands on guns somewhere like mass, nevada, or alabama and transfer their guns across state lines
A lot of people do this
I am for the federal standard matching california and making mental health checks part of training
Wasted
February 20, 2018, 12:39pm
703
dab00g:
Darksakul:
Wasted:
Darksakul:
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Pertho:
need to dig up the gun control thread we had here in GD. It was actually really good and an SRKer made a good post talking about some of the issues surrounding some of the bans.
either way, not really sure why the AR is used in a lot of things, probably because the name is popular. You can change the stock of the rifle from plastic to wood and people will find it to be less scary; same caliber weapon, same magazine size, one is somehow seen as more dangerous than the other.
Its why I hate the term assault weapon, its a oxymoron and it shifts blame off the issue and muddle the issue.
And Pertho is right, change the stock, hand grips and a few minor details and a AR looks like a old fashion hunting rifle.
Also I am often floored how stubborn people are when it comes to explaining what Semi-auto really means.
Semi-auto don’t mean automatic, or 3 round burst. It means the gun ejects the spent casting, re-cocks the firing mechanism, loads and chambers the next round automatically instead of manually operating the bolt of a rifle to do the same process. Semi Automatics does not mean rapid fire.
Yes this makes it physically easier for a shooter to take the next shot but at the same time once loaded the only parts of the gun that can move is the trigger, hammer and firing pin.
In many ways semi-automatics are safer:
Unfortunately, the masses do not care about semantics. All they hear are rapid gunshots, that kill lots of people.
Strictly speaking that’s not correct, as most gun deaths are suicides. But you’re still right that more people are killed by accidents than massacres.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org
The masses are fucking sheep following the dribble presented by the media who only sensationalize everything.
Which such strong reactions, people who don’t buy into the panic/hype gets a knee jerk reaction and desperately hang on to their own guns.
The two things the US needs for Gun legislation
Uniform gun laws across all 50 states
Enforcing the actual laws on the books
Before you can try to talk about stricter laws and regulations, lets fix the existing issues with gun control first.
The gun laws in california, illinois, and ny are extremely restrictive. But people get their hands on guns somewhere like mass, nevada, or alabama and transfer their guns across state lines
A lot of people do this
I am for the federal standard matching california and making mental health checks part of training
Thing is, you’re right about the legal transfers. But this doesn’t address the greater issue of straw purchases, such as what happened in the San Bernadino shooting.
Background checks need to be improved, but they are irrelevant if the shooter is not the one actually filling out the application.
Wasted:
dab00g:
Darksakul:
Wasted:
Darksakul:
[details=Spoiler]
Pertho:
need to dig up the gun control thread we had here in GD. It was actually really good and an SRKer made a good post talking about some of the issues surrounding some of the bans.
either way, not really sure why the AR is used in a lot of things, probably because the name is popular. You can change the stock of the rifle from plastic to wood and people will find it to be less scary; same caliber weapon, same magazine size, one is somehow seen as more dangerous than the other.
Its why I hate the term assault weapon, its a oxymoron and it shifts blame off the issue and muddle the issue.
And Pertho is right, change the stock, hand grips and a few minor details and a AR looks like a old fashion hunting rifle.
Also I am often floored how stubborn people are when it comes to explaining what Semi-auto really means.
Semi-auto don’t mean automatic, or 3 round burst. It means the gun ejects the spent casting, re-cocks the firing mechanism, loads and chambers the next round automatically instead of manually operating the bolt of a rifle to do the same process. Semi Automatics does not mean rapid fire.
Yes this makes it physically easier for a shooter to take the next shot but at the same time once loaded the only parts of the gun that can move is the trigger, hammer and firing pin.
In many ways semi-automatics are safer:
Unfortunately, the masses do not care about semantics. All they hear are rapid gunshots, that kill lots of people.
Strictly speaking that’s not correct, as most gun deaths are suicides. But you’re still right that more people are killed by accidents than massacres.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org
The masses are fucking sheep following the dribble presented by the media who only sensationalize everything.
Which such strong reactions, people who don’t buy into the panic/hype gets a knee jerk reaction and desperately hang on to their own guns.
The two things the US needs for Gun legislation
Uniform gun laws across all 50 states
Enforcing the actual laws on the books
Before you can try to talk about stricter laws and regulations, lets fix the existing issues with gun control first.
The gun laws in california, illinois, and ny are extremely restrictive. But people get their hands on guns somewhere like mass, nevada, or alabama and transfer their guns across state lines
A lot of people do this
I am for the federal standard matching california and making mental health checks part of training
Thing is, you’re right about the legal transfers. But this doesn’t address the greater issue of straw purchases, such as what happened in the San Bernadino shooting.
Background checks need to be improved, but they are irrelevant if the shooter is not the one actually filling out the application.
You’re right. However, any procedural improvements could have a loophole. It does not necessarily mean that nothing should be done or evaluated.
dab00g
February 20, 2018, 1:18pm
705
Straw purchases are bs and the transfer should be looked at
Monthly renewals would be fine
Here is something interesting
Lobbyist keep the CDC from researching shootings. Why is the injury prevention discussion of the Center for Disease control is underfunded? And what they have to tell us about the issues?
I never understood the obsession with guns. If anyone tries to intrude on my property or put my safety in jeopardy in public, I’m gonna have to force choke a bitch.
dab00g
February 21, 2018, 12:56am
709
Yeah suicides are a big use of handguns accidental or not
Really there is pressure for change
They talk about mental health but they want to take away medicare which can pay for it
They don’t want to bring back state/federal funded institutions for the mentally ill because $$$$
Only $$$ can change things
Here’s another man’s observation on the differences between then and now. Take a break and listen.
-Starhammer-
So you guys know about that Trump dating site? Well… LOOOL
On Monday, North Carolina news station WRAL reported that the smiling, MAGA-hat wearing faces in the promotional art belonged to a Raleigh couple—William Barrett Riddleberger and Jodi Riddleberger. WRAL reports that Riddleberger’s “past includes a felony conviction for taking indecent liberties with a child in in 1995.” According to North Carolina paper News & Record, “Riddleberger was convicted in 1995 on the charge stemming from filming sex with a 15-year-old girl. He was then 25.” Riddleberger’s offense is publicly listed on the state’s Department Of Public Safety site.
“I’ve already paid my debt for something I did 25 years ago,” Riddleberger reportedly told WRAL. Jodi, his wife of 22 years, cofounded the political action committee C4GC, Conservatives for Guilford County. Both of them have donated to the Tea Party-inspired PAC, according to WRAL.
Sorry, my dude. A 25 year old should not be fucking 15 year olds. That shit is gross and you should have known better.
its only common sense. Like all laws the left proposes.
dab00g:
The gun laws in california, illinois, and ny are extremely restrictive. But people get their hands on guns somewhere like mass, nevada, or alabama and transfer their guns across state lines
A lot of people do this
I am for the federal standard matching california and making mental health checks part of training
And most of the crime committed with legal guns in IL are still bought and purchased within the state of IL. It isn’t like IL gun laws are preventing people from buying guns in IL and preventing criminals from using said legal guns. So they have to go out of state. Nope, right in Lyons IL is a gun shop where 1000 guns that were used in crime were linked back to.
Well this explains a few things:
As someone who lived in Mass for 15 years let me give you a nickles worth of free advice Utah, dont vote Romney for Senator. Dude is legit useless.
odin
February 21, 2018, 7:56pm
715
Damn… The current generation won’t even get that comic lol
But it’s nice for the rest of us.
Spirit_Juice:
So you guys know about that Trump dating site? Well… LOOOL
https://gizmodo.com/the-guy-in-that-trump-dating-site-ad-has-a-child-sex-co-1823155857
On Monday, North Carolina news station WRAL reported that the smiling, MAGA-hat wearing faces in the promotional art belonged to a Raleigh couple—William Barrett Riddleberger and Jodi Riddleberger. WRAL reports that Riddleberger’s “past includes a felony conviction for taking indecent liberties with a child in in 1995.” According to North Carolina paper News & Record, “Riddleberger was convicted in 1995 on the charge stemming from filming sex with a 15-year-old girl. He was then 25.” Riddleberger’s offense is publicly listed on the state’s Department Of Public Safety site.
“I’ve already paid my debt for something I did 25 years ago,” Riddleberger reportedly told WRAL. Jodi, his wife of 22 years, cofounded the political action committee C4GC, Conservatives for Guilford County. Both of them have donated to the Tea Party-inspired PAC, according to WRAL.
Sorry, my dude. A 25 year old should not be fucking 15 year olds. That shit is gross and you should have known better.
I’m a big believer in clemency and second chapters in people’s lives when they commit offences. I get really fed up with seeing repeat offenders that get their shit straight only to fall back into it because they’re ostracised so they think why bother.
In saying that, if you essentially shot child pornography, I don’t think getting politically involved is the right decision. Or appearing in promo art.
maxx
February 21, 2018, 11:20pm
717
odin
February 21, 2018, 11:33pm
718
Gotta attack other things.
Maybe thats why Florida is so fucked up? Fucked up priorities.
No Porn means no jerking off, no jerking off means lots of stress.
Ever seen a angry person after sex, getting a hand job, blow job or rubbin one out?
dab00g
February 22, 2018, 1:28am
720
Florida is the south and their constituents are redneck conservatives and christian nra members so…
Trump will meet victims and not the ones who called him out, but ones who will praise him.
I kind of want those survivors to come at trump hard for the nra donations, and hit him about sexual harrassment and collusion just so he can yell at survivors on tv
