American Government Thread 2: RIP John McCain, 81

And In bizarro world news

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Trump train is falling off the tracks

Mueller might have some shit

I love seeing the nra made to look like money hungry idiots

Doctors doing good work

I’m not trying to make you look like someone you aren’t, I’m looking at your words and noticing that you seem to think that being referred to by the wrong gender, if someone is trans, is a “mild inconvenience,” which I would argue is not actually the case, and there are plenty of trans writers and activists that would say that being referred to by their preferred gender was incalcuably helpful to their mental health and well being. I’d gladly link those to you if you’d like.

I did not mean to imply that you haven’t had a tough life or suffered, just saying that the life of a trans person is often one riddled with poor mental health and a large part of that is because of the struggle to achieve validity. Every little bit helps on that front.

It wasn’t my intention to mischaracterize you but my adverb choice was harsh and I understand how it could come across, and for that I do apologize.


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Reinforcing someones delusions about themselves is actually more damaging then helpful and there is scores more documentation about this then there is on how supporting their delusions helps them. Of course Trans writers and activists support this, their biased for it, thats not a good source. What do actual psychologists say? I dont know a single psychologist who says you should feed someones delusion. We wheren’t told to tell my Great Grandmother that she was correct, there was a woman living in her toaster because she was delusional and thought the reflection in her toaster was a person (This is a true fucking story.)

You are correct, these people are suffering from bad mental health. Supporting that delusion isn’t helping their mental state, it’s re-affirming a falsehood and sending them even farther down the rabbit hole. We should be helping these people, not re-affirming a delusion through compelled speech at my place of work, ESPECIALLY at an institution thats supposed to be about teaching realities.

I mean supporting this delusion leads people to self-mutilation. How the fuck is that even remotely healthy?

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I for one love and support this. I don’t want power. I try to make that clear. I will step up and try to keep the community from cannibalizing itself if needed, but it’s not a joy in my life.

You’re a dick for presuming I do this for fun. I ran around the country for years doing shit I thought would help the community at no interest or benefit to myself. I’ve done a lot of shit over time with no concerns as regard benefit to myself, only an interest in helping the community. I have my bona fides. You’re a dick.

I left that very discord because I have legal obligations due to work and a troll there insisted on crossing personal boundaries I can’t have crossed. I can understand that making malicious personal attacks are important to the health of a community. /s Oh look - other people noting that the reason they don’t like the politics section on that discord is not due to the content, it’s due to the fact that some manchildren there lash out like angry toddlers if you disagree with the right wing circle jerk.

by banning the ones who have things to say only

Eh, you are full of shit. Because crackpots spouted this line, I actually explicitly listed every concern above so that the reasons why people got in trouble are abundantly apparent. Ya can’t hide behind “but mah different point of view”. “I need to be an asshole” is not a political point of view or something different to say. “I am an idiot” is probably going to be okay, although you might be asked to put the brakes on once in a while.

God, I am such a dick for banning somebody that let somebody get raped because he disagreed with their politics. I am a monster.

further reinforce how this has become a bigger circle jerk than The Donald on Reddit or /pol/ on 4chan.

Eh, TheDon bans people who disagree with the hivemind. We have given people timeouts here for being dicks, not for political disagreements. Those reasons are explicitly listed above, and it seems pretty cancerous to lie otherwise. But hey: if cancer is all you got, go for it I guess.

Thanks for all you do for the community. :+1:

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I have no meaningful ability to make people smarter. Your concern - “everybody else but me is an idiot!” - is a recurrent concern that I have no answers whatsoever for. I really do urge you to think through that. How is anybody else supposed to solve this problem?

I have no meaningful ability to figure out what is trolling versus what is sincere. This is exactly the same as the last paragraph, but – it just bears covering explicitly. Check each other and hope.

I’ve tried to stop people from being complete dickwads to each other. Evidently that is political suppression, as being a dick is a protected political point of view these days. You’re worried about people being dumb/trolls whatever, which I have no ability to solve - I’ve tried doing the one thing I can do which is to try to get people who drive away other people to tone it down.

Oh well. Dicks gonna dick.

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I just want to have thoughtful point/counter point discussions on political topics, interspersed with news and occasional funny shit.

Personal attacks and meme spamming are a waste of my limited time, and frankly are also boring. I am entirely unsure why anyone on either side of the spectrum wants to die on those hills.

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You will forever and always be the guy of MvC “Way of the Leaf Shield”, to me, good sir.

What you know 'bout 'dat Kobun shirt?

Thank you for all that you have done for the community.

EDIT:

Given the context of the post itself that I quoted, I feel it would be remiss of me, given the audience, to not point out what I would otherwise assume to be obvious.

Re:

I MEANT it.

Thank you, @Preppy, for all you have done for the SRK community.

Real Talk.

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Well, this stinks.

Reuters recently published an article where it has been found out that ZTE helped the tyrannical Venezuelan government establish social control like in China

I suppose Trump will charge again at ZTE, and take action.

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Interesting article. I was thinking about it as I was reading, and I think a lot of the anti-Chinese stuff coming from the administration is basically just sour grapes that they’re as good if not better at doing the same shitty things we do. We arm and prop up despotic dictators like Maduro all the time, sell weapons to the wrong people, cheat other countries, get involved in situations we shouldn’t, etc. We benefit from these types of policies, but members of the American government getting upset about this is more than just a bit ironic.

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A few thoughts:

  1. Jim Acosta being banned isn’t as much of a problem as the fact that CNN is basically reality TV for people with a bit more brains. Acosta should just join the WWE where what he does is acceptable.

  2. Fox is no more than a cheering section for the GOP. We all knew this, but Hannity appearing onstage with Trump (which Roger Ailes would never have allowed) basically just confirmed it.

  3. Trump isn’t necessarily wrong when he says the media is the enemy of the people, but he isn’t right for the reasons he states. Legacy media is getting it wrong all the time, and alternative media isn’t necessarily doing a better job. When everything is talking heads and op-eds, being properly informed is difficult. And the nature of the internet and lack of fact checking means that you can find material that supports any notion real or false.

  4. Muslim women got elected in Michigan and Minnesota, a bisexual atheist got elected in AZ (ARIZONA!), and a gay man got elected governor of Colorado. The media doesn’t mention these things unless they’re trying to push a narrative. Most people don’t have problems with immigrants, gays, or non-whites, I really think it’s just an overrepresented minority that seems to get a lot of the airtime.

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LMFAOOOOOOO :joy::joy::joy::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::sob::sob::sob::sob::skull::skull::skull::skull:

TrumpTown!!

Also running the country, which is a big problem.

What kind of fucked up world are we living in when people (feel the) need to start alternative social media sites bases on political ideology?

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Do you believe in nationalistic white supremacy? Then please join this FBI watch list for future domestic terrorists! :+1:

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Also, it’s called TrumpTown! LOLOLOL!!!

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Hey look at this guy.

It’s interesting how not toxic this thread is when people who can talk to each other without being toxic are posting in it. It’s cool to hear from other people with different backgrounds who have different takes and thoughts on some of the most interesting things that have happened in our lifetimes.

Unfortunately, some people we all like are unable to touch these subjects without losing their mind. Usually I like to have strong generic policy reasons for taking any given action. I don’t have one here. This is just a needlessly incendiary topic for some people.

At this point, I’m extending the long-standing SRK “troubled topic” bans on abortion and religion to temporarily cover politics too. Presumably until Trump leaves office and the madness dials down some or at least until the fiery rage isn’t a normal thing. Notice this thread had been going on for a long damned time without problems and is actually mostly fine again. Oh well.

Everybody here is great, and I’d prefer not to avoidably get people’s panties in a bunch. Love y’all. Go kick each other’s ass over important things like fighting games.

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