American Football 2019 Thread:

Preaching to the choir fam. I got sick of people giving me shit because I pointed out Cousins in ability to play well when it matters. I not saying anything now that I wasn’t saying when he was the QB in DC. Except back then I was more hopeful of him turning things around, he is who he is at this point. Once Dalvin Cook was out, I knew they were cooked.

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There’s got to be some sort of irony in all of this. The Vikings had a slight chance of winning the division by beating the Packers and now because they shit the bed last night they’ll end up playing the very team they would’ve helped with that win.

They’ll play the Saints or the Seahawks, most likely the Saints. There’s a scenario in there where they could play Green Bay again, but that would require the Packers losing to the Lions. And an even smaller chance they could play San Fran if they tie with Seattle.

No matter how it shakes out, Vikings are done.

I am all for reseeding in the NFL playoffs. It just makes no sense that a potentially 8-8 NFCE team could be hosting a 12-4 team. At best it would be 9-7 hosting a 11-5.

Any NFCE team should be the 6th seed in the playoffs. They could still have the same 4 division winners and 2 wild cards, but then reseed based on records and tie breakers.

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I know I’m gonna sound biased because the Eagles are the beneficiaries (though with the way Seattle just played in Atlantis against Arizona not by much) but I had the same feelings back when Seattle themselves got helped from this.

Divisions mean next to nothing if you reseed afterwards. Imagine the possibility that Seattle/San Fran would be the 1-2 Seeds. What would be the point of winning the Division then?

And don’t say “Well the point is, even if you’re unworthy you can make the playoffs”. Shit like this happens so infrequently it’s ridiculous.

If a 12-4 team can’t beat a 9-7 team who doesn’t have a major homefield advantage then they didn’t deserve shit to begin with. You gonna tell me that if Seattle or San Fran don’t beat Philly a team who has more injuries than Touchdowns, that’s the SYSTEM’S fault?

I mean I’m an Eagles fan, I sure as fuck don’t expect to beat the 5th seed regardless of where we’re playing at. Whoever that is should be at least a 4 point favorite on the road if not more.

I can see it both ways. Winning your division guarantees you a playoff spot. But should it also guarantee you home field advantage for the wildcard game if you only have 8 wins, and your opponent has 11 or 12?

Well then let’s flip it. How is it fair that some teams have to scratch and claw to 10 wins in an extremely difficult division to get a low seed, while New England basically gets a guaranteed 6 extra wins each year easy in their own Division and hence always get 11+ wins because of it?

Same reason it’s fair that other teams have to scratch and claw to get 8 wins to win their division :rofl:

But that’s the point. People bitching that there should be reseeding because a 9 win team shouldn’t get home field over a 12 win team don’t say shit when New England basically moonwalks to the bye every year on the back of a horrific division who only produces another playoff team once every 4 years.

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I agree. There’s a reason why it is the way it is. All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t be opposed if it changed. I can see it both ways.

You reseed, good teams in horrific divisions still have a massive advantage due to how many games they get in the division and that’s been the case for ages. The only thing re-seeding does is try to cover up something that’s been happening very infrequently and good 12 win teams can easily stomp the floor regardless of where they’re playing.

Besides, the next conversation to come up will be “Well, why is the NFC East winner getting in at all when the Rams are probably better?”

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I don’t get why people shit on Kirk Cousins so much. I root like fuck for him because if he succeeds then NFL contracts becoming guaranteed gets closer to reality. Him not succeeding means the owners can continually fuck over the players with contract clauses.

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Look, I want guaranteed contracts to be the standard as much as the next guy, but it doesn’t mean I’m gonna lick his boots every time he completes a throw. Kirk is the same guy he’s always been. When he’s comfortable he can cook you but he folds under pressure both physically and mentally. And unlike last time where I defended him because it was his squad that fucked him, this time he was equally as bad.

Most of us had the same reaction when he got the deal. Glad that someone got that guaranteed money, but anxious as fuck because we knew he was an extreme risk to fuck it up for everyone else. And that’s probably why the Vikings fell on the sword in the first place. Either they get a Super Bowl with him thinking they’re only a QB away or he fucks up and now all the owners in the NFL have ammo to never pay a Guaranteed Contract again.

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It’s not even just about the guarantee, it’s the money amount. He was not worth the price of admission, guaranteed or not. Guaranteed or not I don’t give a shit, I’m not making any money. I’m here for entertainment.

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I agree that he’s the same type of QB he’s been since the end of the redskin days, but I don’t think he chokes as much as people say. He’s an above average qb who is typically around top 12ish at his position and puts up good numbers. Is he an elite QB? So he doesn’t step up every time he’s needed because he’s not at that level.

…That said, the entire Vikings team played disappointingly on monday. Including Kirk. Not having Cook didn’t help either.

Won’t even hate…

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https://twitter.com/mickakers/status/1209158025535094784

The best part about building a fully operational Death Star stadium is lifting off and flying to another city when fans inevitably stop showing up

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I never saw a problem when a 8-8 wins the division and makes the playoffs and even gets the home game. But if your 7-8-1 or worse than you should not get into the playoffs period IMO, when the Seahawks did it, it felt wrong for them not only to get in but to get a home game for it.

I always thought it should be AFC vs NFC and should do something like play 12 teams from the NFC and 4 from the AFC on some kinda of cycle if your say in the NFC. This would then allow the 6 best teams to make the playoffs for sure from each conference but I really hope it goes to 8 teams per conference sooner than later vs 6 because this almost ensures no long playoff droughts for teams which are terrible for fans.

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Who cares if it’s terrible for fans or not? Most teams that are run properly don’t go through long playoff droughts. Hell even mediocre run squads like the Cowboys still find their way into the playoffs every few years.

Even then, only two teams have avoided making the playoffs this decade. The Browns, the ultimate in awful, and the Bucs who self-destruct every two seconds when they get close. Every other team, even oft terrible ones like the Redskins and Lions, have found their way into the playoffs in the last 10 years. Unless you think every team should be in the playoffs every 3 years, which is asinine and weak.