QFT. You took the words right of evryone’s argument.
That is my main problem with some high tier characters in this game, particularly Boxer, Sagat, and Ryu…they get to do whatever the fuck they want versus every other character and their gameplan doesn’t have to change much at all.
Try that with Guile, Cammy, Rose, or even Dictator and you will get raped.
Last night I played 50 Champ matches and I kept a record of the characters I played, and it went like this:
19 Ryu’s
11 Sagat’s
7 Blanka’s
4 Balrog’s
4 Ken’s
2 Honda’s
2 Guile’s
1 Vega
Isn’t that part of what makes the game fun? Not getting raped, but changing style depending on your opponent’s character and play style.
I’ve been maining Rose, and not necessarily having a hard time fighting people. I suppose it’s because there are in fact a lot of Ryu/Ken kids who play the jump away/fireball/follow-me/jump-in/Dragon Punch tactic (Seriously is there a post anywhere on the internet that says this is a good tactic? Why do so many people use this??) Maybe if Ken and Ryu weren’t the only featured characters on the cover, which happen to have nearly identical special moves, there’d be more variety.
Anyway, when I get beat, not because of lag, but because I got outplayed by one character or another, I feel really accomplished. There really isn’t a character who can do one move all day and beat everybody. sure Sagat has the terrible f-HK into Ultra… but that just teaches you not to jump into it. Where one character seems overpowered, it could just be your strategy being underdeveloped.
With that said, I think I’m gonna go play as Honda.:tup:
I used to main guile before i switched to bison. sagat sucks any fun out of the game. did you know sagat can backdash through guile’s ex sonic boom?
I switch between bison and vega too, and lemme tell you that compared to bison i get raped so easily with vega sometimes.
I also randomly choosing balrog nowadays and all i do is mash jab and wait for people to do things. it’s like they forgot that uppercuts were for anti airs, i get away with a lot these days, like jumping in, waiting in the corner (i’m not even turtling anymore, i’m just there mashing jab like it was a joke on them or something) balrog’s ability to move in on shotos and sagat is horrendously easy.
heh nice, i used to have some viper trouble, would you believe her qcb+mp CLEANLY beats guile’s ultra? (awesome times)
that seems about right for me, except i don’t get so lucky with the balrogs (until i started randomly using balrog o_O)
No, you are absolutely correct, for most fans like you and I, learning all the matchups is part of the fun.
But (this is just one example among many) its frustrating when you play a guy who uses only balrog, and no matter who you use, he gets to run the same loop with almost identical effectiveness:
Crouch block.
Dashing jab punch on reaction to anything that isn’t 100% safe.
Headbutt if you jump.
Jab into headbutt if you get close.
Ultra off any headbutt if he has it.
Can’t cross him up, the headbutt makes all crossups whiff (his stance and hitbox is part of that too).
Shit gets retarded really fast.
I actually didn’t play any Ken’s last night Champ mode. Lots of Ryu’s, though. A fe Sagats, one Claw, a Cammy, few Akuma’s, but not one single Ken… I was flabbergasted!
It is Ryus and Kens, 's is possessive.
i want everything of kens to burn up
his flames are AWESOME
i could sit in training mode drilling shoryukens ALL DAY
dont swap the ultras tho, his ultra just has too much FIRE MAN!!! FUCK!
I thought that “’” looked out of place.
There you have it. This is a good example as to why the game is less fun when you play with Sagat, Ryu, or any other “Just Add Water” character. I don’t see how anybody could have fun in a Ryu vs Vega matchup (unless the Vega player wins). Maybe they’re hurting inside? Choosing they’re top tier characters may hold with it a heavy burden that we may NEVER understand!!:sad:
When I play at late at night I play against a lot of Viper, Abel, Dictator, Ryu, and Sagat.
Most of the people that play Viper are usually G2-A.
Winning is fun.
Only sometimes.
If I have to turtle or counter turtle to win, its not fun, even when I win.
:chainsaw:
I pretty much like fighting anyone but Ryu. And lol at the person complaining about balrog mirror matches. Seriously?
:u: Agree
I main Rose and played a Sagat who just stood there throwing fireballs and when I tried to get it he’d s.hk me. It was quite unnerving. Still, I don’t care who you pick. :lovin:
it’s not that when a character gets popular btw, it’s when such a retardedly easy/boring character gets popular.
Nobody would EVER complain if Bison were the most popular character ever. In fact, the fun factor would increase by over 2000% if this were the case
I almost guarantee you that there’ll be another version of SF4 to come out if not just a solid patch. We’ll see who will be top tier then. crosses fingers for Honda