Alpha 3: Q & A

New vids at a-cho.

Any Dan players here ? I’ve found he has great normals. And a fast counter poke projectile: tha gadoken !!.

a-cho updated again. …didn’t know Sodom could juggle with his standing Short…

btw, results:
http://a-cho.com/match/03/20050313.html

At the bottom of the page, the photograph: left to right Nekonohi, Asaba, DARK, Romii.

Winner- Dark (Gen)
2nd- Romii (Vega)
3rd- Asaba (Sodom
4th- Nekonohi

From the brackets above: apparently these vids are from the bracket on the right, as they’re apparently two different tournies. Players from top to bottom, Hige (Ryu), Asaba (Sodom), DARK (Gen), Katou (Ryu), Nekonohi (Sagat), Chikachan (Akuma), Majikaru (“magical,” Sakura), Romii(Vega).

Ahh, I guess this was the winner’s tournament and the bracket on the left was the qualifier…? Like the winner of that one gets to enter the winner’s tourney.

Asaba beats both DARK and Nekonohi in something which, after running it through babelfish, translates to “wind god” match. 2005/03/13-h.wmv is the winner’s final apparently.

I’m pretty sure it’s not, but noogie -> X-ISM super may be inescapable unless you have enough meter in V-ISM or a level 3 super that can be done while airborne.

On the other hand, with Gen kick throw in the corner followed by the super throw seems to be unescapable : if you flip you eat it if don’t flip you eat it too.

No. The situation is similar to the one TS has described above. If you have enough meter, you can escape. If you anticipate Gen is going throw you on the other hand, and actually tech. bonus the throw; if the Gen player decides to follow up with the level 3 Jakouha, it will be inescapable.

Inescapable Jakouha is cheap. :slight_smile:

well with guy… u can jump off the wall :slight_smile:

Can’t you counter with another move? Like Gief’s belly flop.

whats a karin vc that does crazy damage(that doesnt involve otg 360’s)? I know i could refer to the VC thread, but axor tells me many of the vc’s are outdated.

I’ll normally do c.mpXXqcf+PPP(till they knock up in the air), rdp+mp, mp, more of the rekkaka’s, and random stuff till the corner, then mash for dp palms, but I end up getting rekkaka’s and crossing myself up and messing it up…

I would guess it depends on the character, and the level of super used…level 3, you’d be grabbed out of any attack, but if you have one with the right hitboxes (ie Rose/Shoto jumping Short or 'Geif’s knees) you might be able to hit him out of it. I have seen a vid where Akuma flipped after the throw and wasn’t grabbed, but I don’t know if that’s consistent (in which case it may be because he simply flipped backwards), or if Gen just threw him too far from the corner, or whatever. Gen may be able to option select something, like throw and then standing Jab xx Super, ditto X-Dhalsim, and Guy for that matter, but IIRC that already made it into Xenozip’s Guy vid. Though, it’d be harder with Dhalsim since you wouldn’t know when they’d mash out.

Ignore my ramblings.

Unfortunately, her most damaging VCS involve her throw (other than he corner palm juggle). This is because she scales like a whore.

And what is qcf+ppp? Does she have such a move?

^Rekkas?

I think it’s supposed to be QCF+P, P, P (standard 3 palm rekka chain).

^ ya, thats what i ment… phew, aside from not putting the commas in, i thought i was in my own world or something…

I have serious problems against chunli, mostly because of her jumping short. I tried several things but I can’t counter it. I play v-sakura and most of my matches against chunli goes like this : the chunli player jumps in and eat a vc, at the end of course I have no meter (can’t do the vc ender to regain meter consistently) and I get straight owned because I cant stop her from jumping at me all the time. Any thoughts about that ?

Is this happening on kaillera? Becuase a lot of kaillera scrubs just jump around with chun all day. Albeit her j.short has really good priority but there should be no reason why it’s giving you that much trouble. If you can anticipate her jumping then do j.strong or airthrow. If not, just walk under her.

Yes it’s happening on kaillera. The chunli player I was taking about isn’t a scrub actually, he knows chunli very well and it’s hard for me to find openings. The airtrow won’t work because he does the jumping short quite early, so by the time I sart to jump at him to throw him, the jumping short is already out and I eat it.
Jumping strong is a good option but it must be done early, and I find it difficult to do on reaction (maybe my reflexes sucks or it has something to do with lag, I don’t know). As for walking under her, it almost never works because if you try that you get corssupped (the hit box of the jumping short is HUGE, which is why it’s such a deadly crossup, very easy to land).

In addition:
Chun jumps, walk a bit back, as chun is about to land, do b+FP-> fireball. Chun will block. Wash, rinse, repeat. After a while your opponent will be trying to get in closer before jumping. Zone with b+FP-> fireball.

bowiegranap : actually I use this technique a lot, especially against Zangief. But It’s way harder to do that against chunli, because she travels a long distance with her jump, plus her jumping short has a fairly long range. So most of the time when tried that,
I ended up blocking the jumping short and this is when the nightmare begins : he can go for a throw or a close FP which he can follow up with doww+RH or with another crossup short (after a blocked close FP he’s at the perfect distance for a crossup) and this goes on and on an on… and I can’t do shit :sad:

well, when all else fails…s.jab that shit