Breathable air composition doesn’t mean free of pathogens.
This is the definitely the weakest of the trilogy; too many inconsistencies/wtf moment.
Someone was pointing out earlier that the space station is on a re-population mission yet we see the two gay soldiers… :wtf:
I have to admit; the first 5 minute was pretty epic. It sets the tone appropriately. I want more of those scenes in the final movie.
I thought one of the stupidest moments in the entire Alien saga is when Kane puts his face up to one of the hundreds of Alien eggs on board the derelict ship. Those eggs obviously didn’t deploy the distress transmission, or warning (as Ripley determined it to be), so why the fuck would you be fucking with them anyway? Talk about dumb decisions. This entire series is riddled with people making bad decisions. Like Dallas wanting to bring Kane back on board with a face hugger STILL ATTACHED to his face. (I know Ash was an android and was secretly ordered to bring an alien on board, but that didn’t change the fact that everyone but Ripley thought it was a good idea). And then chasing the damned thing alone through the air duct only to find that five minutes later it’s the size of a giraffe and it eats you.
For the last fucking time, the colony aboard the covenant consists of 2000 colonists in cryo and over a thousand embryos on ice. It doesn’t fucking matter that two crew members are GAY.
Also if setting up a colony was just about making babies to you then you’re fucking dimwit.
But a gay couple can’t reproduce.
They probably have fully functional sexual organs. They can be parents to any of the embryos if needs be. They also bring with them their set of skills and expertise that will help establish the colony otherwise they wouldn’t be there.
The crew was made up of couples because this was a one way ticket and everyone would have someone. Not so they can fucking make babies.
These films have a laundry list of stupid shit but the gay couple isn’t one of them. You have to be fucking thick to think so in light of everything presented.
Chadouken is trolling. Gay couples use surrogates
The worst bad decision in Covenant I thought was when that bitch when on a shooting spree in the landing ship and shot the fucking fuel cells and blew the ship up. God damn, that shit was fucking HILARIOUS! But it by no means ruined the movie for me, not at all. In fact, it made it better because I was so entertained. I was laughing my ass off in the theater (I think I was the only one laughing). That part was fucking great!
I really don’t understand why everyone has to be so offended by movies that don’t meet their standards. I almost feel like expectations are based on nostalgia of watching the older, better, movies, when the originals had quite a few problems of their own if you take off the rose-tinted glasses. And to compare it to the Star Wars prequels is sinking pretty low. At least it didn’t have a fucking talking horse.
Why would you have fuel cells or any thing explosive be right by the cargo door where heavy cargo could potentially collide with it and right by where they store munitions.
So you can blow the ship up by shooting them, because it’s awesome.
Drama for drama sake, same with this movies ending and the Prometheus ending with the ship roll.
Not just for the sake of drama. It served the purpose of keeping them stranded on the planet.
It would still be dumb to go out there with 0 protection because they don’t know what kind of bacteria and diseases are floating in the air…You know the thing that fucked them.
If they had hazmat gear on then they wouldn’t have gotten infected and the movie would have sucked because no aliens!
Oh ye of little faith!
To think that expedition was led by a biologist and the soldier that was meant to be protecting her went for a piss and a fucking chain smoke just to rub in the salt. “fuck the perfect environment time to cut loose on this bitch”.
Well, I can’t speak for anyone else, and I am have not seen the movie so as to be “offended”, but I’m pretty sure that a lot of the “offense” isn’t based primarily on nostalgia, but rather on Covenant clearly showing that, lack of “scary monsters” in Prometheus aside, Ridley clearly didn’t learn shit from the actual failures of Prometheus, i.e. all of the characters being dumber than perpetual glue-sniffers. If I wanted to view entertainment where depressingly extreme stupidity was the crux of it, then I can just turn to real life anytime, especially as of late. At best, if I watched Covenant now, then I’d probably just be vaguely disappointed despite not having great expectations of it to begin with.
Now, I’m not going to say that “nostalgia” isn’t coloring some people’s expectations, of course, and I don’t think anyone in here would say Alien or Aliens were flawless as good as they still are. But there’s a difference between being merely “flawed” like pretty much everything is and being “bad” like how Covenant seems to be from the majority of the reviews in here. You’re allowed to have your own opinions of course, but I am legitimately curious now: Do honestly think that, even as much as you seem to have enjoyed Covenant, that it is actually comparable overall to Alien and/or Aliens in terms of quality, @“chadouken!”?
There is no right or wrong answer here though we will all totally crucify you if you say yes.
That said, however you may feel about the Star Wars prequel comparisons, they are at least unfortunately apt within the realm of Covenant also being proof that (one of) the original director(s) & creator(s) can’t actually write worth a damn and both sets of prequels being highly disappointing movies that shred the continuity of the very canon they are trying to explain. At least when that clusterfuck of Genesys came out, it partially had the excuse of time travel being very tricky to write well if you aren’t doing closed, stable, essentially fatalistic time loops. What the fuck was Covenant’s excuse for both throwing out a bunch of stuff from Prometheus that it was supposed to further explain and making the Space Jockey issue that appears in Alien far more confusing than it initially was?
And, honestly, that’s the thing that bugs me the most in general. I am not going to pretend that writing a lengthy script that is potentially subject to rewrites and plot-destroying reshoots is easy, but I don’t see what possible excuse there is for having every character save for one be a complete fucking idiot other than laziness in most instances unless maybe the movie is an intentional comedy. For example, how do you excuse the cartographer in Prometheus immediately getting lost right after he makes the 3-D map and the biologist similarly wanting to essentially pet the first living alien he sees despite it immediately displaying behavior that is basically similar to behavior in animals back on Earth that translates to “back off”?
Spoiler
You don’t, but people will apparently still pay money to see it anyway after you disappoint them the first time because humanity is smart like that.
If nostalgia did anything, then I would argue that it’s the primary reason that people went to see the movie at all in the first place, especially given how Prometheus critically bombed.
I recognize the flaws, I really do. I just don’t get mad about them because I still find most of the content in Covenant very entertaining.
I mean, for insurance, you’d think that receiving a transmission from somewhere not on their charted course would have thrown a red flag up for the crew, especially after what happened in the original Alien. They should have known better if they had cared to watch the original movie from 1979. They knew enough to recognize that it was John Denver, and Country Roads released a mere 8 years before Alien was released. Tennessee was obviously in touch with pop culture of that era, so he should have known better, right? What the fuck were they thinking?
But do I let that bother me? Of course not! The movie has enough redeeming qualities for me to enjoy it and that’s worth the price of admission. Scott’s cinematography and world building, and the alien attacks are all AMAZING. And that’s mostly what I wanted to see anyway. I can forgive bad decisions made because I don’t take them personally, and they move the plot along. It’s just a movie, after all. I had a lot of fun watching it in the theater, the scares were good, the atmosphere felt right, and I like laughing at the ridiculous parts because it’s fun.
[details=Spoiler]As for the whole David creating the xenomorphs thing- I’m honestly fine with that.
First of all, he used the bio weapon that the Engineers were engineering (derp) on LV-223. I want that story to be explored a little more. To me, that’s the true origin of the Alien, not David’s manipulating and experimentation of it. I’m sure it will be revealed eventually.
Or at least I hope it will.[/details]
To answer your question, I hold the original two movies in very high regards. No, I don’t think Prometheus and Covenant are as good as they are- they’re definitely nowhere near as groundbreaking. But they are a far cry from being as bad as the Star Wars prequels. Those are pretty much unwatchable, in my opinion.
you are replying to a nigga that hasn’t watched the movie. That’s like asking Trump about World War II
small nitpick
All of these movies happen in the future (way past year 2000) so the fact that the movie Alien was released little after Country Roads is of no significance since in the timeline of the movies, the Nostromo ship and its crew were traveling in space around year 2100+ in Alien.
I know, I was just being silly.