Alex General Discussion: "At ease, loo-suh!" The Alex SFV Thread

[AssAttack]

Part of the fear that was 3S Alex was that if his momentum was good, the game would turn instantly in your favor. Problem was, though, that a lot of what he did was punishable or easily telegraphed. It was sort of a this-for-that deal.

Not trying to be contrarian but I think his biggest flaw in 3S was his bad Oki. You land an EX Flash, a sweep, Powerbomb, or just regular throw and you STILL have to dash in. The good Oki is partially what makes Makoto, Dudley, and Yang so good.

[DevilJin_01]

SFV generally isn’t prioritizing jabs or low buttons into big damage

[Jerom]

http://i.imgur.com/EMyDxMY.jpg

[Korbidon]

That’s his model on the NY stage, doubtful that will be his in game model.

If it is…it’s a bit horrid :-/

[ES_Curse]

Object: NYK_ALX_ALEX_MOB

Yeah, he’s part of the mob in the New York stage.

[bakfromon]

Obviously his in game model will be somewhat based on his background model, at least in terms of looks.

[twocoins]

also confirms it’s not Metro City and the MPD is Metropolitan Police Department

[Intru]

Obviously his in game model will be somewhat based on his background model, at least in terms of looks.

Why? And why it is obvious?

[bakfromon]

Obviously his in game model will be somewhat based on his background model, at least in terms of looks.

Why? And why it is obvious?

Because it’s a revamped look on his old style that fits in with the new redesigns associated with characters like Ken and Vega. Like how Vega’s redesign just gives him a grandma shirt I suspect the checkered top to be a part of Alex’s new design.

[Projectjustice]

I hope they lower the amount of special moves he has. I think he had way too many in SF3.

[Tebbo]

Alex is built for 3S so he will need a lot changed.
His lack of a low cancel and high/low throws and blockable throw are all things which are only relevant in 3S.

So it’s kind of dumb to try to compare him to that.

He’s really cool in that he has an answer for every kind of thing an opponent can do, the problem is they’re mostly 1:1. So when you make the wrong choice you get nothing and even possibly fucked up for it.

This is SF5. It’s entirely different. I think he will have flash chop, powerbomb, his flying knee and his elbow slash. The rest, who knows.

Part of the fear that was 3S Alex was that if his momentum was good, the game would turn instantly in your favor. Problem was, though, that a lot of what he did was punishable or easily telegraphed. It was sort of a this-for-that deal.

Not trying to be contrarian but I think his biggest flaw in 3S was his bad Oki. You land an EX Flash, a sweep, Powerbomb, or just regular throw and you STILL have to dash in. The good Oki is partially what makes Makoto, Dudley, and Yang so good.

alex has a great wakeup game. i smell theoryfighter. alex can push people to the corner very quickly so his lack of ability to just sit on top of them forever isn’t a tragedy.

alex overall is lacking ultimately so comparing him to makoto who is the best grappler with the best wakeup game in the game and dudley who has possibly the strongest corner-game is not exactly fair.

[Projectjustice]

I wasnt comparing, theres nothing really to compare him to. I just felt he has too many special moves. He was just all over the place design wise even in 3s.

[Duralath]

He has a lot of special moves in 3S, yes. That being said, they did all have their uses, with some of them being niche as fuck (DDT, for example, only works against opponents that don’t know how to jab out of it or have been trained to block high and react with absolutely nothing).

At the core, you really only need Flash Chop, Slash Elbow, Power Bomb, and Stomp. Air Knee Smash, eh, you can do without but it’s cool to be able to combo that out of anti-air s.strong. DDT wouldn’t be bad to stop guys who mash lows.

ReNiC said it best when describing 3S Alex: incomplete. This is a chance to really flesh out the character, though, and see what’s necessary. If it were me, I’d just port the damn character over, but this is also SF5, and we can’t all have our way.

[NeloVergil]

He has a lot of special moves in 3S, yes. That being said, they did all have their uses, with some of them being niche as fuck (DDT, for example, only works against opponents that don’t know how to jab out of it or have been trained to block high and react with absolutely nothing).

At the core, you really only need Flash Chop, Slash Elbow, Power Bomb, and Stomp. Air Knee Smash, eh, you can do without but it’s cool to be able to combo that out of anti-air s.strong. DDT wouldn’t be bad to stop guys who mash lows.

ReNiC said it best when describing 3S Alex: incomplete. This is a chance to really flesh out the character, though, and see what’s necessary. If it were me, I’d just port the damn character over, but this is also SF5, and we can’t all have our way.

What if they based Alex off of Birdie and changed his charge moves to hold P/K moves? How would you guys say he would look and play like?

Edit: wtf was up with my English

[ES_Curse]

He has a lot of special moves in 3S, yes. That being said, they did all have their uses, with some of them being niche as fuck (DDT, for example, only works against opponents that don’t know how to jab out of it or have been trained to block high and react with absolutely nothing).

At the core, you really only need Flash Chop, Slash Elbow, Power Bomb, and Stomp. Air Knee Smash, eh, you can do without but it’s cool to be able to combo that out of anti-air s.strong. DDT wouldn’t be bad to stop guys who mash lows.

ReNiC said it best when describing 3S Alex: incomplete. This is a chance to really flesh out the character, though, and see what’s necessary. If it were me, I’d just port the damn character over, but this is also SF5, and we can’t all have our way.

What if they Alex off of Birdie and changed his c charge moves to Hold P/K moves? How woild you guys say he would look and play like?

Bull Head, the motion attack, was back charge in Alpha. Bull Horn was a TAP input, but in SFV you only need 1 button instead of PPP (idk if he had a KKK version)

Capcom admits that charge lends itself to defensive play; I doubt an offensive stun monster would have charge moves in SFV.

[AssAttack]

He has a lot of special moves in 3S, yes. That being said, they did all have their uses, with some of them being niche as fuck (DDT, for example, only works against opponents that don’t know how to jab out of it or have been trained to block high and react with absolutely nothing).

At the core, you really only need Flash Chop, Slash Elbow, Power Bomb, and Stomp. Air Knee Smash, eh, you can do without but it’s cool to be able to combo that out of anti-air s.strong. DDT wouldn’t be bad to stop guys who mash lows.

Air Knee Smash will probably be gone unless they want to make him more combo-centric.

I could see his go-to anti air being crouch HP. Slow but solid if done at the right time like Bison’s crouch HP in V.

If you had a choice between Slash Elbow or Flash Chop, which could you do without? EX Slash Elbow could punish shit but I don’t think it would be safe on block again in V. I don’t think any of his Elbow’s would be safe on block considering the other tools he has.

I’d prefer Flash Chop being his go-to so long as you could use it to reflect fireballs. It would be nice if EX Flash Chop reflected fireballs back at an even faster speed and gets an extra hit or puts them in some serious blockstun.

DDT wouldn’t work unless it beats Jabs.

[Korbidon]

He has a lot of special moves in 3S, yes. That being said, they did all have their uses, with some of them being niche as fuck (DDT, for example, only works against opponents that don’t know how to jab out of it or have been trained to block high and react with absolutely nothing).

At the core, you really only need Flash Chop, Slash Elbow, Power Bomb, and Stomp. Air Knee Smash, eh, you can do without but it’s cool to be able to combo that out of anti-air s.strong. DDT wouldn’t be bad to stop guys who mash lows.

ReNiC said it best when describing 3S Alex: incomplete. This is a chance to really flesh out the character, though, and see what’s necessary. If it were me, I’d just port the damn character over, but this is also SF5, and we can’t all have our way.

What if they Alex off of Birdie and changed his c charge moves to Hold P/K moves? How woild you guys say he would look and play like?

Bull Head, the motion attack, was back charge in Alpha. Bull Horn was a TAP input, but in SFV you only need 1 button instead of PPP (idk if he had a KKK version)

Capcom admits that charge lends itself to defensive play; I doubt an offensive stun monster would have charge moves in SFV.

Charge characters worked really differently in 3S though, I’d hardly call Alex or Urien defensive.

Although neither characters moves, except maybe Uriens fireball, are inherently strong enough to warrant charge.

[NeloVergil]

http://1.1.1.1/bmi/i.imgur.com/1SH8tmk.jpg

Let there be life in this thread once more (and enough salt to clear the northeast)

[JokeeBoi]

http://1.1.1.1/bmi/i.imgur.com/1SH8tmk.jpg

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BG model.

If that’s his new design, I’ll wait to judge it when we get a more detailed playable model.

[NeloVergil]

http://1.1.1.1/bmi/i.imgur.com/1SH8tmk.jpg

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BG model.

If that’s his new design, I’ll wait to judge it when we get a more detailed playable model.

Yup bg model, still nice to see what it looks like when it doesn’t suffer from being in the bg. Ignoring what he’s wearing and body; his face and hair did translate over pretty good