I never wanted to prove anything about you. IIRC we were going to a run a set and you bailed early. if you want to finish the set some time hit me up, I have never ducked you.<div><br></div><div>I’m just filling in blanks based on my memory. last time you posted here and last time we played you guessed on wakeup often. Ideally you would post match footage of you playing against an Akuma, but since you didn’t I’m posting what I remember about your tendencies to help people give you advice.</div>
When ever I play a good Hugo as Gouki I feel like more of my useful options are shut down or made risky by SA3 than SA1.
Air fb is a great way to keep Hugo where you want him but that becomes dangerous with an SA3 stocked as Pherai mentioned. It is a pretty decent AA if you can spend the meter. Off a clap it does nasty damage and can be confirmed off normals. You get two so last round if one is baited you still have backup. It’s also an easy punish for tatsu to close a round. Overall it seems to give more ways to land and get damage.
hey fun land which Hugo other then sandbags give you issues? only others i can think of are Zerotolerance or DJbootyt<br>
I can get the upper hand on Zerotolerance sometimes but he is not bad. With djB00ty he’s just good at the game and parrying in general so he beats me with Hugo more than I beat him but it feels more about his solid basics than the character.
Niemanorz (nieman) has a good Hugo but is rarely on XBL theses days. Circlemasher is good but he is UK and very laggy for me.
PitouHD or fightforthefuture might be worth playing.
That’s all I can think of atm.
But in my darkest Hugo nightmares where I’m Gouki and get knocked down into the corner with 60% life it’s sandybags who is descending upon me for the kill. He is the only Hugo to ever motivate me to look more deep into the matchup.
EDIT: Have we played before?
yeah, I am strictly a Hugo player, only Hugo’s to really give it to me are Zero and Sandy. Ive played DJbooty and he was good but i only played him twice and also there is a guy who very seldom plays on XBL hispanicjap who is a Sick hugo player<br>
Hispanicjap is good at the game in general, he plays a lot of characters.<div><br></div><div>Here’s one thing to take note: 360 isn’t invincible, but it’s really fast. It’ll definitely get beat out by throws or correctly timed moves, but the point is to look in between gaps. That will help make the opponent realize “Okay, so he did something here”.</div><div><br></div><div>If you feel you’re having trouble with wakeups, then work on that. You will live much longer if you can block and correctly predict throw attempts. </div><div><br></div><div>Sounds like a “well duh” and I’m not trying to patronize you, but Hugo’s wakeup game should NOT be “bad” in the way you describe it. Hugo should make the opponent want to create distance instead of being able to just get in and do the normal shtick.</div>
I don’t know if I understand what you’re saying but wake up parry punish is usually always a bad idea. If you try and do this often you will get lit up.
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/35615/ryan.">ryan.</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>I don’t know if I understand what you’re saying but wake up parry punish is usually always a bad idea. If you try and do this often you will get lit up. </div>
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you will get lit up by good players, but sometimes good players have patterns and when you can read those wakup parry punish can put fear into them and throw there game off. specially in ranked match when players don’t hvae much time to adapt to styles. never I only wakeup parry when I knwo what the other player is going to do <br>
You don’t know what they are going to do. You are guessing. That you find this most effective in a ranked match is not surprising. It is not solid play.
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/64093/geni">geni</a> said:</div><div class=“QuoteAuthor”><span style=“font-family: ‘lucida grande’, ‘Lucida Sans Unicode’, tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 1.7em;”>you will get lit up by good players, but sometimes good players have patterns and when you can read those wakup parry punish can put fear into them and throw there game off. specially in ranked match when players don’t hvae much time to adapt to styles. never I only wakeup parry when I knwo what the other player is going to do </span></div>
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Hate to break it to you, but when you can predict that the opponent’s getting into a pattern, then they’re not exactly “good” players.
It’s easy to say someone is predictable when you guess 90% of the time and only remember your successes. How many times have you eaten low forward super for guessing high?
I am a shitty player, I am not good at all in 3s, I will never be a decent player. all the players I beat are not good players,(which mean they must really suck because I am a scrub player) I deserve not even to call myself a causal player because I suck so much. all my wins come of luck. I have 0 skill what so ever. there anything else I can say so you guys will back off a little?<br>
Good. Now you are on your way to becoming a 3rd Strike Master.<div><br></div><div>In all seriousness though, you should post a video of yourself playing against an Akuma some time. There’s really nothing else for me to go off on, considering your first few posts.</div><div><br></div><div>There have been so many 3S players over the years that claimed to be sick as fuck, but it turns out all they could do was parry everything but still know nothing about the basics and end up eating fifty billion throws in the corners.</div>
I don’t think you’re a bad player. We’ve played a lot and many of our games have been close. Now I’m nowhere near as good as the top quality players here like most people who have given you advice, but I’ve learned a lot from them and I think the advice they are giving is sound.
I do think you’re one of the better XBL Hugo players, but I think you would be better if your initial instinct on wakeup was block low, react high. Even if you think you know what the other person will do. Tech throws when appropriate. That is the building block of solid defense. And the fact that Hugo has 360 as a wakeup option makes your life easier. Wakeup parry is a gimmicky risky option most of the time.
I agree you should post replays. It’s way easier for them to offer specific advice after they see what exactly is giving you trouble.
Also FWIW I don’t think you should judge yourself based on XBL play. For one thing most of the Xbl players are not top notch lol. And for another, the lag inherent to online play changes the nature if the game. Take anything that happens online with a grain of salt IMO.
First step to getting better at 3rd Strike is to check your ego in at the door because you will be humbled many many times.
No need for that baby attitude dawg. Makes you look like a chump. We are all adults here. 3rd Strike is a mans game.
Let’s see some vids!
I don’t have any ego, but i don’t consider my self trash. you have to have a positive attitude about your own skill to be good. if I said “Im the best Fucking Hugo online! i only lose to BS I am the shit!” then by all mean thats a ego (a little over board but you get the idea). complementing on a couple of strengths you have is a way to show confidence. those are two completely different things. if confidence= Ego then maybe i need to read the newest edition to Websters dictionary <br>
And that’s exactly the wrong attitude to have as a new player.
Accept yourself as trash. Only then will you actually start learning.
I know the game is going on 13 years but as for being a year in i don’t consider myself “New”.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/64093/geni">geni</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>I know the game is going on 13 years but as for being a year in i don’t consider myself “New”.<br></div>
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A year of what? Online play and playing Billy next door? I’m trash, you’re trash, pretty much everyone who posts on SRK except for like 5 people are trash at 3S.<br><br>You must be willing to un-learn everything you know about 3S before you can truly begin.<br>
1 year is very new. even if you’ve been playing longer it sounds like you don’t have a very good understanding of the game or your character.
if you’re experience with the game is only online that’s a clear sign that you need to check yourself and be more humble.
most low level players and online players tend to play all out against Hugo. you probably need to be more patient, play more ground game (which Hugo is very strong at), bait more opponents wake up moves or time your palms more meaty.
you also do not need to do palms right infront of their face on their wake up. for that matter need to be right on top of them on wake up for you to put a mix up on them for okizeme.
Depending on the timing and distance, it might trade with shoryu or get beat but the rest of the hits of it do not connect leaving them open for a punish. if they parry, and try to retaliate, all they can do for big damage is parry -> mp or hp shoryu cancel first hit to sa1. At this distance gouki cannot parry and punish in many ways.
Sounds like you need to hit up training mode more