I want to know how (I think it was Vanao?) did that dash under after a c.HP. Ken was going to land behind him, but he quickly dashed under him to the other side. I’ve tried it and when I hit with the c.HP, the opponent lands infront of me.
if you want to show off a lil bit you can do an EX arrow kick"donkey kick" wait for them to bounce back another EX donkey kick wait for them to bounce back again again and if you have the meter EX hurricane kick or a regular dragon punch. I takes pretty descent damage and the stun is crazy.
I have been playing Ryu for some time now and people still fail to realize that he is just as deadly as ken if you play him how people play ken which is my style. He has a good amount of wake up games for downing an opponent such as wait until they get up and rush in and do a --> + MP and it has two hit and if you time it right you will always catch them with the last one or use the -->+HP and the timing to try to recooperate is different.
Ryu’s definitely good, but I would say I still say Ken is a lot better than Ryu. If you really want to know why, I’d be glad to expound, but you also might be bored to death by my limitless theory fighting. I also have to say, 2 or 3 EX moves sound like a waste of meter, but I’ll try it out when I get the chance. If it does crazy stun, sounds like it’s worth the trouble.
I’m pretty positive that nothing will connect after a second ex joudan. I remember thinking one day that i could endlessly just ex joudan over and over in training mode, but nothing would connect after the second joudan. Sort of like the juggle rules change for certain characters.
Ex. remy does AA cr.HP, juggles with another cr.HP, and when he tries to juggle again with RH flash kick, it whiffs.
However, I believe the rules would change if a super was involved… something like ex joudan - ex joudan - SA1… but that seems like it would be a horrible waste of meter, going from a full two bars to nothing. Something I have done on occaision (when I have the meter to burn) is after the bounce back from the joudan, jab reset SA1. Main thing is that I don’t think you get the reset damage though and it’s a pretty easy parry (easily remedied just by throwing out something in the middle. Overall though this combo is not very usefull… suck damage compared to how much meter you use.)
Something I have tried though in training mode (vs. another ryu) is cl.HP xx EX joudan – jab reset x dash under cl.HP xx EX joudan, etc. etc.
Main problem here is that the dash under is near impossible to do consitently it seems. Out of the 20 some odd times i tried i was only able to execute the dash under once… where I proceeded to be entirely too excited to do the followup joudan combo. I think if the secret to that could be unlocked though, it would offer an amazing tool. No one expects to be crossed up midscreen by ryu after a jab reset.
Impress your friends!
Well if you’re playing Ryu like Ken, Ken is better. lol.
Unfortunately that is true. However, that’s why you DON’T play Ryu quite like Ken. You make use of EX hadous much more with Ryu as a poke. You also use less risky set-ups, seeing as Ryu can lag more and leave more punishment room. Ryu actually works quite well in trading pokes, thanks to standing mk,mp, and hk, as well as crouching mp, mk, and hk, as well as the EX hadou. You also have to try to bait your opponent into places where you can score high damage, such as getting them in your close fierce range. One close fierce is worth a combo for at least Shippu damage or more. Also, if your poke-reading is good, you can always try to catch your opponent’s crouching attacks with c.mk into SA1, doing really good damage.
Exhales There’s my two cents on how I like to use Ryu. Oh, and utilize the kara throw in your mix-ups. It gives you an extra dimension that even Ken doesn’t have.
Sucks that Ken is still better. :crybaby:
But yeah, his ability to spam EXes with SAI gives Ryu the ability to really pressure his opponent. With a good solid mix up game, you can easily knock down your opponent 3 times in a row or more. SAIII makes Ryu’s knockdown game mega scary. If you get knocked down, all of a sudden you’re forced to parry or take heavy stun damage.
Rofl. Sums it up perfectly. Playing Ryu like you play Ken is stupid.
Ok the only reason I would use a double EX kick is because I am using SA1. But if you are goin to try that combo you cant be up on them you have to be almost across the screen and the kick connects and when they bounce of the wall you kick again because by that time they will be falling in front of you. But after the second kick you can either dragon punch or what ever but the thing is that you can only land one hit. But if you want you can fireball them. But that is a combo for show only if you know how to build meter use it if not its really not worth using. Now about the dash its some crazy because i use the EX kick and dash and jap then dash again jab and if you want you can EX hurricane kick and it will throw them in the corner. That combo is really difficult to pull of but my whole set up now is jump in HP, st.HP or C.HP,EX kick, jump straight up EX hurricane kick. That will throw them back in the corner. If they are almost stunned that combo will definatley finish the job and then you can do the combo again if you have the meter and that will then just about finish them off.
Ryu will always over power Ken and it is true that Ken is faster and Ryu is stronger but you can EX hodous or hurrincanes with Ryu. With Kens EX hodou is good but Ryus is better because if you are in good range you can keep them grounded. I like to play rush down defense with Ryu but you can do much damage when it comes down to playing ryu.
Also, if you are really sharp, you’ll notice Ryu wears a white gi with a red headband, and Ken has a red gi with long blonde hair.
Yea alot of people think that ken is better over ryu mainly because yea his best super is one of the fastest in the game but his EX moves kinda suck compaired to ryu’s because ryu inflicts more damage than you think when you play him right. I use his SA1 so I can have about 6 EX moves when the meters are full and I can utilize them pretty well and I have a combo when done about twice can stun and end the match.
This is getting pretty off topic. If you are really interested in arguing that Ryu is as good as Ken (which I’m not sure of whether you do or not, so I’ll assume you don’t) then start a new thread. Otherwise try to stick close to the topic. And yeah, Ken’s ground EX hurricane and EX fireball suck compared to Ryu’s, but that’s a good thing. 
If they were as good, Ken would be even better and there would be no reason to play Ryu, unless you really liked Ryu’s supers more.
yea you right this has gone totally of route. I came here to leave some stuff i found out about the character and to share insight and logics behind how it works. Soo with that being said its back to work for all with this thread.
Btw, I didn’t realize how much of a jerk I made myself look in that post. :wasted: My complete apologies. I didn’t mean to rag on you, just wanted to point out that there was a bit of off topic debate. 
Has anyone tried to do that cross-under combo that I mentioned at the bottom of page 1? I don’t have access to any form of 3s atm (although i did find a beautiful 3s cabinet in a mall in oklahoma city, let me know if your in the area, ill be here for a few more days). Aaaanyways… I sort of wanted to play around with it more but i haven’t had time to check it out. In case you dont want to look, the general idea is:
EX joudan --> dash up (or walk up) --> jab x dash under --> another FP x EX joudan combo.
I think if you can line yourself up just right to where you pretty much are directly under them when you jab, it will work.
yep i did it twice but it has weird timing but its doable
Sounds like it would be REALLY tricky to pull off in the heat of a fight,though… and I wonder if you’ve tried it on chracters with weird hit-boxes or fast falling? (i.e. Chun, Yun,Elena,etc.)
well I tried it on Q and alex i believe.