Afew questions trying to mod a SFAE stick with Sanwa stick

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I am trying to mod a SFAE stick for a friend with Sanwa/Semitsu parts and needed to ask afew questions. What is the difference between the JLF-TP-8S and the JLF-TP-8S-SK? They look the same but have different costs so I wanted to be sure. Also the SFAE stick is about 1.5cm thick but is cut out alittle for the Happ/knockoff stick so I would say its about 1cm thick overall will I need to sand down or cut out anymore to make the joystick come closer to the right height?

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Use a JLW instead.

From what ive read… its a direct fit

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A SFAC stick related question for those who know:

24mm buttons, such as a 24mm sanwa or semitsu, those WILL fit the SFAC’s Start/select holes right?

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Looking at it would I have to remove the mounting plate and then just directly screw it into the stick like a happ stick or the standard stick?

They will fit in the holes, however they are not long enough, which is pretty much the same problem with all Sanwa/Semitsu buttons. I measured my SFAE stick and its 15mm thick while the 30mm wide buttons only go down 14-17mm which even at the 17mm point I plan on sanding down the inside a little to make them hold better. As far as the 24mm wide buttons they only go down 14-14.7mm which means you got to dig out alot more to make them fit.

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Nope. You leave the plate on

It was covered already last week in THIS thread

look 3/4 down the page for pix

hope that helps

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Thanks, I’ll talk it over with my friend and see if thats what he wants to go with.

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Ok so they’ll fit, but the problem is they’re not quite long enough to be tightly secured with a mounting nut, correct?

Which sanwa/semitsu’s go down to 17mm enough to be secured?

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I am just looking at the catalogs from the Akibarashop but the Sanwa OBSN-30RG and the OBSN-30 are both 17mm and the Semitsu PS-14-GN and the GN with the clear center. Those are the only ones I have diagrams for to be sure. I am not 100% but I am pretty sure the completly translucent Semitsu screw ins are also 17mm but don’t have the diagram to prove it.

I still believe you will have to sand down the insides a little just to make sure they will hold in. I haven’t actually modded my friends stick yet, but like I said the sticks top is about 15mm while the buttons that are 17mm may work without the extra work who knows. I’ll be know more in about 2 weeks if your willing to wait that long, have to wait for my friends payday plus parts to come.

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Sanwa and Seimitsu are almost identical exterior wise, except the plastic’s feel different. Its the inside thats different. Different buttons for different folks. I would route the bottom a little if its the case, instead of sanding it.

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I wouldn’t really recommended actually “replacing” the buttons with high sensitive Japanese buttons. more of a chance to activate pause or something during play. I’d say try to avoid switching out start/select if necessary. Ideally, you’d want to drill new holes somewhere else for start/select on one of the sides to avoid the chances of hitting either while playing.

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Hi Guys my first post…

I did this mod about a month ago. First i went with a JLW. Minimal mods needed to fit this stick. Then i tried the JLF. I prefer the JLF. To fit the JLF i had to slightly cut the flat mounting plate at the ends (about 2mm either side) to fit into the recessed wood. then drill 4 holes for the bolts and countersink them on the top so the perspex sits flat.

I tried both sanwa and seimitsu buttons and settled on seimitsu buttons. To you fit the buttons you need to enlarge the holes slightly.

Hope that helps

ignore the messy wiring :wgrin:

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Thanks for the info. As for sanding vs routing. I do think routing is the better option but I am trying to keep wood working out of the picture as much as possible.

Also nice stick I will have to have my friend look at it.

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Thanks for the input! I recently ordered two Seimitsu PS-14-DN from lizardlick.com.

Hopefully those will be at least long enough to secure, if not i’ll find another way to get them to stick in.

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Those are the 14mm or 14.7mm long ones. I don’t know if you can stop or the order now but the G/GNs are the ones that are 17mm but those are teh 30mm wide. None of the smaller buttons(24mm) that I know of will go all the way down without some woodworking.

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Very cool! Next thing you should do is wire in a better PCB if you have not already.

One question though: The start/select buttons, did you replace the stock ones? If so what kind did you replace them with, and was any extra work needed to “fit” them in?