AE Gouken Moveset and Attributes

Question, if far st.lk is +3 on hit, why the hell I can’t do cr. mp on counterhit? I can only do cr. lp. Is frame data wrong?

Most light attacks give +1 frame advantage on counter hit.

oh, that makes sense now. I thought it was +3 for everything. So it’s +1 for lights, +2 for mediums and +3 for fierces? How do we know?

I know that AE’s far st mp is +4 on hit and on CH it links into cr. hk, so at least +2.

lights are +1 medium and hard is +3 as a rule of thumb

Oh, ok, good to know. I’m working my frame traps then.

Of course, there are exceptions, so the only true way to know for your specific normal is to try linking on CH.

Maybe I should try and compile a list for us.

Does sf have something like the brady games guide for mvc3?

Yes, and it is in all Japanese. You can try summoning Gilley who has it and probably has all the answers you are looking for in addition to that.

Do you summon Gilley with red materia or do I need to be able to talk to espers and shit?

Japanese guide does have frame data, but not additional frame advantage you gain by CH.

I own it, but I don’t have access to it atm.

Right, but Gilley has it and probably ran through every frame of everything and then some.

You can try PMing him.

Gouken’s normals all confirm what the japanese guide says…I tested all his normals

jab/short = +1 on CH
strong/forward/fierce/rh = +3 on CH

Something to note…Gouken’s far s.roundhouse leaves him at +3 on CH and it has a high chance of scoring CH in general. In AE2012 he should be able to link super after this :slight_smile:

Heh I just said that earlier, all depends on the HP reach of the super though. 137+345 if it works.

Hows the counter-hit damage calculated again? I always wanted to know.

I always understood it to be Damage * 1.25, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

yes, 1.25 damage and stun

just sayin, but goukens shinshoryu links from jabs now.

Nope it does not.

His Forbidden SRK however :3…

what i meant. sorry.

The option select Cr LK > Super is badass against Makoto, Balrog, char like this.