oh my god. light kick IAJK is the best ultra bait.
What I dont understand is when I am watching videos of adons versus shottos (gamerbee vs gameinn for example) is that you dont see them throw out the shoryu that much. But when I play my friends its bam shoryu… am I just spacing it wrong ?
That’s the difference between a pro and a scrub. Pro players will assess the risk/reward of the situation before throwing out a wake up SRK while scrubs will throw it out no matter what. When playing those kind of players you have to bait out SRK and punish accordingly.
If you watch Gamerbee vs Gameinn videos uploaded by 0xkeNzo (he does it in a few of it but I can’t find the exact one), you see that Daigo do do wake up SRK when Gamerbee jumps in after an untechable knock down. Gamerbee knows this so he would bait the SRK out by doing an air HK JK. The one I saw was forward throw, dash up, jump foward then air HK JK to cross up making the SRK whiff and then punishing. Rewatch those Gamerbee Vs Gameinn vids and note how Gamerbee pressures Daigo after a knock down.
It was always noted that you could not safe jump shotto characters and Adon has nothing in his arsenal to make him an exception. The best thing you could do is what is mentioned above, to bait the SRK with something like a jump over to HK AJK. But you can safe jump a character with an SRK that’s 3 frames.
Why does Adon’s normals make counter poking so easy? I hit c.fp~super on monday like 5 times lol
mm… a noob question but, how do you deal with El Fuerte Tortillas on wake ups??
if i try to dash forward, i get caught. Neutral jump maybe? you can eat a Tostada Press if you guess wrong though…
i hate El Fuerte 
BTW, he can Guacamole Adons Jaguar Kicks 
fucking hating the guile match up right now. so retarded that you can’t even jump over a fucking sonic boom without risking like 3 or 4 different damaging attacks.
fucking hate all the guile buffs in super.
well spaced IAJK (HK version) are your friends here! (although he is still annoying as hell).
… no advices against El Fuerte Tortillas/Tostadas wake up mix up?
that would be cool if i could do those consistantly, but thats not the case. Also, fuck balrog. impossible to get in on.
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Gamerbee vs Guile
Gamerbee vs Balrog (yea I know it’s a bit old, but it’s still pretty relevant)
I see, I dont have the issue as much in ranked as I do against my friends. We are all pretty much noobs still at the moment. I have yet to get past 2000pp but I am using the excuse that ive only played on stick for about 9 days 
ill see if I can bait them more and go from there, thanks for the advice
ELF: I don’t know the names of ELF’s retarded moves so bare with me. On wake up, ELF can slide, belly slam or spin grab you.
Wake up LK RJ will let you escape the belly slam and beat the slide but lose to the spin grab.
Neutral jump will let you escape the spin grab but it will lose to belly slam and slide and make sure you hit grab after you land cause most ELF will try to throw you after the spin grab misses.
That’s about the best I can come up with after 40+ games with this one ELF. You just have to guess to a degree, that’s how that ELF is built.
One more thing, don’t bother using focus on wake up, Adon’s FA cannot hit ELF’s slide.
so it really is a 50/50 mix up…
now i hate playing against El Fuerte even more!!
thanks anyways 
Is the opening post going to be updated anytime soon, since I think Adon match ups have been talked about 
When you crumple someone close st.Fierce whiffs on certain characters, so I like to use close st.forward on these characters instead. A few off the top of my head are Rose, Chun, and Dan. If I’m thinking right, close st.forward is his strongest normal that can cancel-able aside from the fierce.
You can also use it as a frame trap, which is always useful.
yes sir. i’ll get on it asap
does ANYONE have any tips for getting trapped in the corner by fucking Balrog? I swear to all things jaguar, I can NOT fucking escape the corner in a balrog match. As SOON any Balrog player sees me go for anything, JUMP BACK HIGH PUNCH. So retarded.
Technically cl.st.fierce doesn’t whiff on Chun, you just have to do it super early after the crumple.
Balrog in general is a brain dead retarded ass easy buttons character. Sorry but that’s not about to change. Just don’t get cornered (lol good luck).
You can use cr.mp,JT(HK). You cancel the cr.mp with the JT(HK).
Actually any character it would normally whiff on, you just walk up and do it. It works on everyone. So, you will basically get the crumple and then walk forward for a split second and hit st. hp. You can also hit st. hp right after you release the fa like someone below said.
In this situation I use fr. st. lk xx hk jk to push him away kind of like sagat would use his st. lk xx tiger knee/tiger shot to get out of the corner in vanilla.
Greg where you been man?