Quick question about safe jumps in general… If I go with a HK~OS RJ but also hold back, will I block if the opponent’s reversal is faster than my OS? Or do you just not buffer and simply hold block to bait the reversal?
Any jump in os will activate the option if your jump in doesn’t land when done properly. So if they’re doing a wakeup reversal you’re not gonna block it, the invincibility frames will make your jump in miss and your os will activate.
You can just block for the bait on pretty much anyone without a 3 frame reversal. Block and punish.
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Why is this not sticky’d?
i was having a hard time vs bison and found out these neat OS against him, note that you STILL have to try your best anticipate what he will do, there is no OS that beats everything he does or is safe… sadly…
backdash -> OS lk RJ (loses when he does ex pc)
teleport -> OS mk JG, or OS ex JT (loses when he does ex pc)
ex psycho -> OS ex RJ (or better dont do anything and block the ex pc then do U1 reversal)
ex d.reverse -> no OS can beat this move, sad.
need to do an educated guess on whether he will do ex pc…
Even better, cr.lp instead of cr.lk. Cr.lp gives the exact amount of preframes needed to safe jump 4 frame reversals. Although I do not think it works on everyone such as blanka because I think some characters wake up earlier than others. Also does anyone know if os lk jk after a crossup mk works on teleports?
This thread is really out dated. A lot of these set ups don’t work. For example back throw stand jab jump mk doesn’t work on seth, cammy, or fei.
I think we should include corner safe jumps as well and unblockables in this thread. I have a few guy and blanka safe jumps as well as a universal sj off forward throw in the corner (except shotos) I’ll post the info when I can seeing as I’m typing this on my phone.
It would be very good to have an updated OS and “Safe Jump” thread … but I dont know if we have enough Adon players here to get as much information as possible (+ dont know if here is a moderator).
In my opinion we will need the following categories:
SJ after --> F. Throw & B. Throw, Sweep, LK MK EX Rising Jaguar, EX JK, Ultra & Super.
SRK SJ (let SRK whiff) --> B. Throw, LK EX Rising Jaguar, EX JK, Ultra & Super.
Follow ups if there is no “Quick Rise” after LK MK EX Rising Jaguar.
Unblockable/Hard to block Set ups --> B. Throw
Corner Set Ups / SJ --> F.Throw, LK MK EX Rising Jaguar, EX JK, Ultra/Super
OS against --> Backdash, Teleport, Reversals, Other situations (like JK hit/block)
And for sure character specific usefull OS
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I would love to contribute and add all what I know so far and what I have seen in videos from solid Adon players.
Safe jumps after sweep are hard to due to the fact its distant dependant. With that being said here’s the universal safe jump against characters with a 5 frame reversal (CORNER ONLY)
Forward throw dash forward low jab neutral jump round house.
You can OS with dp or whatever you’d like this sj options select would beat out for example giefs wake up lariat or wake up spd. This is a very reliable sj set up.
Here’s another safe jump for characters like DeeJay, Guy, Gief, Yun, and Blanka
Back throw Stand Jab jump short. You will not get hit by yuns dp, deejays ex upkicks, blankas ex up ball, guys ex tatsu, or giefs lariats. If they wake up block it will have to be blocked as a cross up and if so you will have the advantage to apply pressure. This also works on Seth.
Sorry Dude … but this is not a safe jump … it is forward throw > dash > nj HK
Why should it be distant dependant ? you simple have to choose the jumpin normal but the frame count is alwys the same … so if you do sweep > st.jab > jump normal … you are always safe against 5 f reversals !
Yea sorry, had my notes mixed up with a different sj
I say distant dependent because opponents can be swept at different ranges. Try that set up on cammy after shes swept at a close range you can be dp’d
Ah … sry dude … but that is not possible if you can SJ Cammy with this set up than it works everywhere … the only thing that can happen is that you cross her over and you eat the DP while changing sides and you dont block in the right direction. I think that you just got DPed because it is a 1 Frame timing and often not so easy to do … BUT I am not the SJ god … so if you go for P-Mode and record sweep>st/cr. lp > Jump In … and you mash DP with cammy and it is safe far and not safe close … than dude … there is some strange thing going on … XD
What am i doing wrong when i try to os forward safe jump hp with hrj on honda when he blocks my hrj comes out?
Your input for the OS is to late … it must be done in the block (freeze) frames … so I guess your are just a bit to slow … XD
Use the short cut to input the RJ OS against Honda … so basically you jump in > forward/down > HP > down > forward/down >HP RJ … and immediatley go for back/down.
It is not very hard and very effective against Honda.
Yeah you were wright i was doing it too late thx.
I would recommend j.hk and os ex dp or ultra. That will catch every one of hondas wakeup options and the timing for the os seems easier.
OS cr.lk (cr.hk) cr.lk --> I just discovered that this actually works and was totally surprised !
Found a similiar OS in the Sagat sub-forum and went straight into the P-Mode to check it out.
Always got the impression that you only can OS lights that are chainable but it also does work if you input the sweep into the recovery of the cr.lk … result is that you get your cr.lk > cr.lk combo if you are close enough and if the opp back-dashes the sweep will come out … very nice !!!