So, if I have a chimp, a 360 pad, and an old madcatz ps3 SE pcb that has the usb copper burnt, how do i hook all this up together? do i just ignore the old madcatz pcb since the chimp will take care of the ps3 aspect, and i just have to focus on soldering the 360pad onto the chimp? but then how do i have a home button for the chimp? im kind of confused on the wiring schematic for the ps3 aspect with a chimp… where would i even attach my actual button cables if all those points are supposed to be in contact with the 360 pad?
Yes, you ignore the Mad Catz PCB, because ChImp taking care of PlayStation 3.
To get the Home Button, you will have to cut the Traces on Mad Catz PCB.
Then route them to the ChImp.
Where you wire up?
The ChImp is PlayStation 3.
Anything you wire up is PlayStation 3.
To get Xbox 360 to work, you will also have whatever wires connecting to ChImp to also connect Xbox 360 PCB.
So let say you have a Button connect to ChImp, that be for O.
You will also make a wire for B connect to O.
Or B to ChImp for O.
Well however you do it, there will be two wires.
So like this is one way to do:
Xbox 360 PCB has a wire for B, that goes to ChImp for O.
Then from the same spot for O on ChImp, another wire comes out and goes to actual Button doing O input.
first off, thanks for responding at this ungodly hour
i’ve been looking at pictures and all
so you’re telling me that the top rows A-K / 1-11 will be where I solder my 360 pad stuff to
and the buttons I’ll just be able to screw them on from the wires directly? my buttons in my ps3 se seem to connect to this blackboard thing, same with my start/select buttons. will i just have to manually strip them all out and connect them to the chimp?
also, im really bad at electronics and soldering all
so, when you say I have to cut the traces on the original pcb, do you mean i just have to basically stick a wire into the copper paths of the things I want? do i stil need to ground the pcb or something like that? I know all pcbs have to be grounded and powered at the same time… i always thought the USB was the power source, but since im ignoring the madcatz pcb but i still need it for home…what’s the dealio then?
Well you don’t have to use the A-K, 1-11 things.
You can, but you don’t have to.
You can put all the Xbox 360 stuff to the same spot where the wires go for PlayStation 3.
So those Screw Terminals, you can have wire from Xbox 360 go in those too.
You can have two wires pop out of each screw; on is Xbox 360, one is PS3.
It just makes for easier.
And since you not cool with soldering, it is good thing.
Yes, the Buttons in your SE are connected to a Terminal.
You will just cut and strip them, then connect to ChImp.
Regarding Home on the Mad Catz PCB.
There is no place to stick a wire into.
You will cut Trace.
Then solder.
The two wires; Signal and Ground; you do for Home on Mad Catz PCB will go to ChImp.
No, you will not provide power or Ground to Mad Catz PCB.
All you using the Mad Catz PCB for is the contact for the Home Button to have something to touch.
Because the Home Button is just a Button with a conductive pad, and it needs the pad on PCB to touch.
Without the PCB, the Button doesn’t have anything to touch.
Without anything to touch, Button doesn’t do anything.
So the PCB used is for the touch.
But the information of the touch will be redirected to ChImp.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5044/tehometrace.png
The red shows Trace that is of Home.
You will scrape off the green stuff to reveal copper underneath.
Then you solder a wire to each of the Trace, then wires go to ChImp.
It does not matter which Trace is what.
Is it possible to just dual-mod a Dualshock 3/ XBOX 360 regular controller?
Can the bat top adapter for Sanwa JLFs be used on the Mad Catz SE stock stick?
If you turn each of them to be Common Ground.
Because Dual Mod require that each PCB be Common Ground, but they are not.
Do by using Optocoupler and Resistor, Transistor and Resistor, Hex Inverter and Analog Switch, what others.
Yes.
Thank you for all of the help and advice jdm, in both this thread and the cthulhu one.
I have one last question (hopefully!) that I’m hoping someone could help me out with.
When I see pictures of people’s Cthulhu mod’s to their TE’s there’s always a glob of solder directly below where the signal points are on the TE PCB. Here’s a picture for the example. I circled it in red.
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/7913/sepcbwtext.jpg
So what is that glob for? Is it necessary?
Hey guys, spent all of last day here and other places getting ready for the 360 wireless controller to arcade stick. Currently I am having problems soldering up the D-pad. I scarped off at the point where the contact should be made, but have had trouble getting the solder to bid to that point. The solder would rather stay on the iron. Any advice on that?
Instead of just using the one point for the d pad connections can I scratch off the rest of the carbon pad and expose more copper for surface area?
Are there any alternative soldering spots for the d-pad? I’ve looked around for a map but can not find one.
Thanks guys, I’ve found this to the best resource!
oh yeah, it is a late model 360 wireless controller, microsoft brand.
ok, im prepping the installation of my chimp, just going to try to install it and get all buttons working for the ps3 as it should first, thanks so much for your help so far jdm, but im going to need more please 
so you’re saying basically like for the buttons, since in the documentation for the chimp it says like 1P on the board = jab, to the PS3 = square, I should wire what I want to be jab from the 360 pad, which would be X, right?
now another question I have is, my buttons already have two wires - do I place them both into the appropriate screw terminal, or is one ground or something? how do i tell which is which?
Im also wondering about the stick, i know i have to strip the wires from the stick to the chimp to put into the screw terminal, but whats the order? my wires are all black…
Yes.
One wire is Signal.
Other wire is Ground.
It does not matter which wire is what.
Just put one of the wires to the Cthulhu for Signal.
The other wire is Ground, connect all the Ground wires together, then that goes to Cthulhu.
Because Cthulhu only have four spots for Ground.
You have eight Buttons.
Will get crazy.
Laugh.
Unless you are cool with stuffing a lot of wires into one spot.
If you are understanding this, then you can make use of the terminal block too.
It is labeled on the PCB.
I’ve checked my PCB and everywhere on my boards, it’s not labelled D:
Really? :sad:
Then follow this.
It is same.
Wiring depends on the orientation of the Joystick.
So match your Joystick to the one in picture.
I know which one already.
But I want you to learn.
Laugh.
So the Sanwa stick in my TE stopped responding to forward from the 1p side of the screen today, and after taking it apart thoroughly and seeing nothing that I think is visibly wrong, would it be worth it to give it to someone more savvy with sticks than I am to take a look at?
so far so good!
what is VCC on the screw terminals? Where is the VCC on the pad? I’m just reading the padhacking thread, I must be blinndddd but i don’t see it labelled on the pad either
also, how do i tell whether or not my 360 pad triggers need inverting?
UPDATE : http://i.imgur.com/VspMy.jpg buttons hooked up and working on ps3/pc!
VCC on the Xbox 360 PCB is +5V.
Which is the red wire of the USB on it.
VCC on the ChImp is one of the corners.
Isn’t it labeled?
So that is how the new ChImp look.
Toodles added those four spots that you soldered USB to.
The previous PCB did not have those spots, and made for having to use under USB jack.
And your SE PCB is labeled for the Directionals.
They are on the other side.
You didn’t look there.
Laugh.
To figure out if Triggers need work or not, you have to use multimeter to test.
Or just know what Xbox 360 PCB you have.
I’ll just tell you now.
Need Trigger Inverting.
Good that you have ChImp; easy to do.
jdm, I looked at the 360PCB wiring diagram, and i came up with this for the pad, does this look right?
basically i thought if red = 5V then the next ones should be D- and then D+ then GND, right?
That is right.
is it alright if i daisy chain the ground from the usb contact to the grounds of all the buttons -> chimp ground?