I think Abel is being seriously overlooked here. The mixup potential of U2 sounded amazing but after seeing it put to actual use, I wanted to fap.
im not going to comment on this because infil might decide to tell me how novice i am
Uhh… okay? No idea what this is for. I’ve got nothing against you, buddy. 
The ultra definitely seems hit or miss, though. It won’t work at all against people who can just jump and air hurricane or teleport away, have multi-hitting, forward-traveling ultras, or easy armor breakers. I think against the rest, though, it’ll be nearly unavoidable.
Is it an unblockable grab?
Yes, unblockable grab.
WHAT?! holy shit a grab? Abel is going to be beast
I can’t wait to use his new ultra. It’s going to be great
i was kidding, after you verbally raped me about the whole larriat thing id thought i would poke fun at it :lol:
Wait… what? Jump and air hurricane… you can hold it down though. Obviously it’ll depend on how long you can hold it, but it looks long enough (that’s what she said). Against other Ultras and armor breaking moves, I’m kinda confused where you’re coming from.
Well, Ryu could theoretically just jump and air hurricane away (and land on the other side of Abel harmlessly). Since jumps are unthrowable at all times, it seems like Ryu can just hold up during the freeze and get away for free (other people who don’t have air tatsu can’t do this, though, because they’ll land and Abel can release when they do). Then, take a move like Gouken’s palm or Rose’s soul spiral, which travels sideways and breaks armor as soon as they run into something; this will probably beat Abel’s ultra, since it absorbs a hit and will likely lose to armor breakers.
And some ultras, like Ryu’s U1, will just put an 8-hit barrier between Abel and Ryu, stopping Abel dead in his tracks after he’s absorbed the one hit. Maybe plain old EX fireballs will also just beat it outright?
I dunno, theory fighter. I bet a character like Ryu can avoid U2 for free in all cases (so U1 is best for him; probably best anyway, considering U1’s fireball applications). But what is Gief going to do if you activate from sweep distance on his knockdown? He can’t break armor, he can’t ultra, he can’t super, and he can’t do any specials to get away. He literally just has to guess jump, but this seems like a guess he’s going to lose 95% of the time, since Abel can just hold it and call all bluffs very easily.
Oh, OK. Well, I wasn’t really thinking of using it that way, the way you use U1. I was thinking of using U2 as an AA or like Gief’s U1. You can jump out of Gief’s U1 during the freeze, but it’s difficult. If the move is really that fast, you’ll be able to punish things with U2 that you weren’t able to before with U1. It could be like Akuma’s Super/U1, too. I still think it’ll be as useful as U1 in a different way just w/o the combo ability.
Do we know how much damage U2 does relative to u1?
judging by the 2 new vids, it does less but does good damage.
Pretty much what I was expecting 
It could be really good or really bad. I’ll have to mess around with it in training mode.
Am I going nuts or does he have a cancellable jump? Is it a trade or something that I’m missing that stops him mid air? a part of the environment?
Link…it happens just at the 2:56 mark…
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He gets hit by Dudley’s rose.
Guess I did miss it. Thanks.
Is their a more embarrassing way to lose a match…imagine that?
im hoping to use u2 in abels mixup resets
You can’t jump out of Gief’s ultra after the freeze. If you’re in range and you weren’t jumping before the freeze, you WILL get ultra’d.
Considering how awesome Abel’s U2 sounds so far (fast moving throw that’s delayable and has one hit of super armor) I HIGHLY doubt it’s going to be 1+0 frame activation. If it is, it’ll be the best ultra in the game. Period.
Personally i honestly will stick with U1 cause the combos that go into it, damage wise & i have to agree with Infil there are WAY too many moves in this game that armor breaks…plus i’m not much into mixups with him i personally like to do the biggest damage with him as much as possible