Abel Wish List

It was hard to tell anything from the videos really, the only thing I really picked up on was the fake wheel kick.

when your outside f-mk range, I have thrown out a goofy wheel kick and been punished hard in the past. (sometimes it works as an overhead) However being able to bait something and punish could be useful.

A much more interesting buff would be a faster sweep, I couldn’t pick that up in the video tho

I would have liked to see standing forward become a kara throw.

his command grab has shitloads of priority
his roll is an invincible as it needs to be
crouching fierce is a once-in-awhile kind of move, and it never whiffs if you know what you are doing because you realize you have to use c.mk and s.fp too

My Abel wish list is that people who don’t know the character don’t ask for improvements because they don’t know what they are talking about

cant see the vid now but, fake rh Kick?

whats the point of faking a useless move?!

I wish Abel gets better priority, nothing more.

more chance of them going for a punish or counter if the move is useless, the better the move the more chance they’d just block i guess.

They should give him a 360 command grab that has just as much priority as giefs. Or maybe a 360 super that does good damage and is actually worth a damn.

to the people who don’t like abel’s “priority”

abel’s command grab has awesome priority already, try the ex version if you’re getting stuffed by pokes

he has other moves with good “priority” - s.mp is a beast for example

abel has a great super right now, easy to combo into and good damage, what else are you looking for?

Just been thinking about this… (not much to do at work) :slight_smile:

As much as it pisses me off when I get thrown out of Ex roll, I’m not sure weather or not it should have throw invulnerability… One the one hand your burning meter, and looking to escape from corner pressure etc to reset the match.

on the other, Is this going to make Ex roll too useful! As it would have both throw and hit invulnerability.

Personally, I think ex roll should stay as it is, I would like to see -

Faster sweep
3 fame c.lp

Id be nice if his forward MK xx HP link had a few more frames.

Super’s only useful for finishing off the last round, otherwise you’re wasting meter.

I completely disagree with that.

It is an awesome reversal, great AA, does great damage…

I don’t know much about Abel, but I think his ex roll should have throw invulnerability at least part of the roll.

Yeah I typically hate the posters on here that go around constantly claiming any good buff would be too good…but in this case I think throw invincibility on EX roll would be too good…because you could just get out of any sort of threat guaranteed. It would neutralize many characters’ entire gameplans. Only way it’d be balanced is if it had some recovery like a teleport.

What if the start up was unthrowable or something? Just throwing ideas out there.

That’s for sure… Like every REAL Abel player in here has said, giving EX roll throw invulnerability would make it ridiculously over powered. Think Akuma teleport with no start up and no recovery. People really need to stop suggesting this.

Except, I’m not saying the whole thing should be invulnerable to throws. The start up would be invulnerable and that’s all I’m saying. I was just throwing out a random idea, there’s no need for your snobby cuntments.

the problem is that its been suggested 10 million times over the past few months, and most people are sick of hearing it.

the snobbiness is probably not directly being aimed just at you, but it can be frustrating to see 100 people all suggest the same bad suggestion, so when you are number 101, you get (unfairly) the brunt of the anger. try not to take it too personally?

Super’s good for a lot of things, since you can turn any step kick into super with an easy hit confirm. Not to mention its AA properties.

I wish it was safe on block, though.

EX roll being throw invincible isn’t going to happen, for reasons already stated. I don’t think making it throw invincible for a few frames at the start is going to be any more balanced either, since the start is when it’s important for it to be throwable from a balance point of view.

Not everyone reads all pages of all threads, either. I don’t think there’s need to jump down the guy’s throat just because he suggested an idea 100 other people have already suggested in scattered threads over the past 6 months. It’s easy to reiterate the reasons without insulting the guy.