Dropped Marduk because the team felt inefficient in terms of meter usage vs. gain. Now it’s Abel and Heihachi for me. Abel sets 'em up and Heihachi dishes the meter-free damage.
tip for you other Hwoarang/Abel players: Hwoarang is better to start the match, tag cancel Abel in on the first hit of blocked Heavy Hunting Hawk and do crossup j.mk, cr.mp into CoD while hwoarang is finishing hunting hawk, they have to block high for so long, most people crack and get hit. if they get hit during one of the later hits of hunting hawk while you cross them up just do step-kick s.hp xx fs. Easiest way to get in for one meter.
There’s no unblockables in this game iirc.
There’s no true unblockables in SF4 either if you know how to block on the perfect frame, there’s setups that make things very confusing and hard to block though.
Why is abel so horrible in this game. I’ve mained abel since vanilla sf4 and I want to use him… but why the fuck did they make him so terrible.
QQ.
Stop playing him like you would in SFIV he’ll feel better.
Strider thinks Abel is good in this game, I’m still hella on the fence about him. I think he’ll end up mid tier in the end but that has a lot more to do with there being a lot of chars worse than him in the game… not because he’s super good. playing him against top tiers, seems like he does decently vs. the shotos and Kazuya. I think Abel-Vega went from a 7-3 for Abel in SF4 to a 7-3 for Vega in SFxT. Claw’s ground game is so dominating in this system and he does a ton of damage… more than Abel can do for any given amount of bar.
The tricky jump/superjump crossup trick in the corner is nice. Not really enough though, unless comparable midscreen setups can be found.
Breathless actually seems really, really good in this game. Any time you get somebody in the corner, provided they don’t have a wavedash, you can just block em in the corner and charge up a shoulder tackle and let it turn into Breathless for a really cheesy trap or dash cancel out if they find a way to close the distance. ppl thought that shit was annoying in Super but I think SFxT Breathless is possibly dumber.
Other things holding him back - no safe tag out move at all. only safe-ish chain ender is CLOSE MK. everything else is punishable. the aforementioned s.lk c.mp chain is easily punished by anyone with a move that’ll reach. close mk according to some early lab tests is only -4 on block when you chain into it, but that still sucks. 9 frame gap before you could possibly hit them with a jab. brutal shit, that won’t fly in this game long term at all.
Nice. Cl. Short hits low.
yeah i learned that too the other day
sadly, im in the middle of starting a new life right now not sure if im going to have that much time to play games for at least a week or two…
What do you mean by this? You could always just confirm the cr.lk into chain, and he’s got plenty of 2 hit moves (close standing HP etc.) that can tag people in.
Usually I’ll just cr.lk 1 time before cr lk chain. and if you can only hit him one time with cr.lk it links with standing lk into chain. So he’s got hit confirms into chain even from a decent distance.
on block there is nothing Abel can do that will get him out, and let the next character come in safely. close fierce maaaaybe
its not like abel is going to lock you down with fierce rolling crystal flash, push you halfway to the corner and let your other char get a crossup setup and stuff. gotta have a move like that to be good in this game imo
801strider fed up with sfxt, so he said in his “ask 801 strider thread”
RIP SFxT Abel
3/6/2012 - 3/30/2012
What an awesome attitude to have 
wow. just, wow…
I **dislike **this post. come up with your own shit, and recognize technology isn’t everything. SFxT rewards solid play and a strong ground game, and Strider is not going to tell you anything that will actually make your footsies better
I’ve decided, the best way to play Abel in this game is to EX-Tornado Throw your copy of SFxT into the trash can, step-kick your way into your nearest game store and cancel into Falling Sky to get yourself a copy of KOFXIII down from the shelf, and then you buy it.
Then s.lk yourself in the face for buying the xbox 360 version of this broken, stupid game.
Any tips on punishing as Abel, normal dont reach, wheel kick is too slow, change of direction is also slow. I must be missing something basic.
What are you trying to punish?
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s.lk, always, for all scenarios, even if they’re fullscreen and they throw out a shinku hadoken s.lk has reflect properties.
but in all seriousness, ALPHA COUNTER. People act like EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER can’t punish ANYTHING for the cost of one bar. Seriously, I can’t believe how few alpha counters I see, I get that it’s early but it’s such an integral part of gameplay that if you don’t at least start using it you will doom yourself to scrubdom, work with the tools you’re given.