Abel FAQs + Hitbox Videos

^Well my friend, I watched all of your vids, and I can honestly say my Abel is better. I play better footsies, I utilize his wheel kick better, and I cross up well where yours is basically non-existent. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. Even if you did best my Abel, you couldn’t beat my Cody either. Yeah, I see you run your mouth a lot, and I have gained some respect for your knowledge, but I don’t concern myself with every detail, and that may be your problem. You know too much.

it’s too bad you don’t play on ps3 otherwise i would have no problem schooling your ass

LOL I assume you main Hawk? Hope you have a good ALT because I’m awesome with T. Hawk, and I know all of his strengths and weaknesses. Another character that can’t beat my Cody. SSF4 and MW2 are the only games I play and I have a modded 360… I’m confident against anybody online.

Edit: Wait, I see your sig… So Zangief is your ALT? LMAO Seth time! :rofl:

ah okay then if you say so, i dont have time to play the “my abel/cody/whoever is better and im gonna school you etc etc” game.

i guess, keep up whatever youre doing until it doesnt work anymore. :shrugs:

LOL You question my oponents, yet you have a gazillion vids of the same Cody whipping your ass. I assume he’s a friend of yours, because I honestly think he was taking it easy on you in this video…

He perfect’d you the first round (not the first video I’ve seen that) then, he almost did it the second round, but he let up from that point it seemed just to make it interesting.

Looking at your play, you have poor defense aginst cross ups… He could have crossed you up when ever he wanted. I play a rush down Abel. I would have been on you like stank on shit. No way you could have dealt with my mix up game. Where is your wheel kick? You didn’t hit it once. Where is your roll? There is nothing I’ve seen that suggests to me that you can beat my Abel. It kinda looks like you are just learning how to play… You are right though… Talking is talking. Ain’t nothing between us but air and opportunity. What’s your tag? I’ll beat you like a nanny does a retarded kid while their parents are away. LMAO Lag and all. What say you?

First of all, those vids were of me learning the matchup, i didnt get to fight cody that much, and i met a decent player online and added him to get a few games so i can learn the matchup. I didnt do that much research on every matchup since im also busy doing other shit besides playing this game. I posted my sets against the cody in the video thread to ask for feedbacks/advice etc, in other words, yes, i am learning this shit. Ive a tons of replays of me beating weak players, and guess what? I dont upload them, sure some exceptions when i upload for fun but most of my vids were of me fighting an at least decent player.

And funny how you purposely just linked to the vid where i did shitty and ignored my wins(not that i care) but yeah, i dont upload shit just to be cocky and shit, i upload vids of me winning and losing so i can learn, so people who watch can learn what to do or not to do. The match was the 10 out of 10 and final result was 5-5, not too bad for someone just learnin the matchup eh.

LOL keep talking shit man, id fight you but too bad im on psn and is probably too far away to even get a decent connection.

Why are people feeding the troll the guy clearly sucks transvestite donkey witch balls on a regular basis.

i doubt your awesome with t.hawk
hell i doubt you even use hawk
your just saying that to seem badass
seth? lol seth is not for rookies
so you best be ready to back up that mouth of yours if i find you online

Troll is reaching critical mass! Seriously guys dont even bother how can you even take this guy seriously he is a obvious troll! Not to mention he is actually getting to you. Do not bring yourself down to his level you are better than this.

Oh come on this guy is just priceless.

Seriously, you’re not as good as you think you are. You come in here with your claims of grandeur and knowledge and the whole abel forum tells you you’re wrong. But maybe all those players don’t know wtf they’re talking about. I doubt you got shit on hfz.

ummm sorry to interrupt, but im new to abel…

i have a few questions

  1. wheel kick, i tend to do it a lot, since it is overhead and hits ppl who jumps away or neutral jumps
    Is this move safe? or punishable? i read its like -10 on block…yet i dont get punished…can this be done in such a way that it is safe? or distance?

I figured this is punishable, but for some reason, not -10 unless point blank, realistically its around -5,-6 frames?

The next question I’m still uncertain.

  1. His ambiguous roll setup from TT and air TT, i’ve been practicing these lately, is this essentially a guessing game?
    1st guess behind or in front of opp
    2nd guess TT, air TT, hp into CoD, or c.hp
    opponent can escape TT, and c.hp by jumping
    opponent can espcapet air TT and hp into CoD by blocking

is there a way to make this “vortex” safer or is there a way smart opponents can get outta this?

Ya ignore that guy he is just trying to get a rise out of you hfz. You can’t attack another persons vids if you have none of your own to show for it. Hfz has plenty of good Abel play in his vids. As for you Candance I am pretty sure I am feeding a troll who knows he is bad anyway so I will just say this I am pretty sure I could just jump back to get out of all your mix ups which include blocked cross ups and TT’s. Apparently that is all you do.

LOL, I came in here with a question. hfz69 addressed ME, and I replied. Crimson Cobra opened his big mouth as well and I never said said anything to any of them. I was just minding my own business and in come these bums talkin shit, so I don’t give a damn who thinks I’m a troll. I don’t start these arguments. Read the sig… :coffee:

What do you think about yourself?

“Being a member with a low post cunt’”

I stopped reading there.

This is just getting ridiculous now - everyone KNOWS that this Candace_P guy is a blatant troll. Ignore his posts and he’ll eventually go away or get infracted/banned for spamming threads. Simple.

abels BNB?

combos that any n00b must know?

See this thread: http://shoryuken.com/threads/174961-Abel-Combos-and-Glitches

BNBs: Combos 1-23. I made a feeble attempt at trying to pick out the important ones but they’re all pretty important even though theyre really just variations of each other depending if you have meter/ultra. The big ones are 21-23…basically if you dont have ultra, do fs instead. You’re not gonna get f.mk xx hp xx cod xx ultra/falling sky in day but your goal should be to get extremely comfortable with all variations of canceling into COD and fadcing into cr.hp xx /fs/reset mixups.

Your other goal should be to get REALLY comfortable using f.mk xx dash. I can’t stress how important this move is. This sets you up for basically all of abels mixups. Go to the video thread and watch how people are using it, both on block (TT, cr.lk/cr.lp block strings, cl.rh, etc) and on hit (hp xx cod). This is abels best normal by far…do not overlook it.

Also, as just a general tip…check abel stickies and use the search function. As an abel beginner im guessing 99% of the questions you might have have already been answered in some fashion or another. :bgrin:

On a totally unrelated note, shout out to juicebox for placing 3rd in devastation. Gave valle and marn serious runs for their money…I noticed quite afew f.mk ticks into normal throws. Advantages of this over tt? Is this just to get your opponent into thinking they can tech throw to set up for TT’s in the future or am I missing something?

lol @ troll

JBA used cr.lk ticks into normal throws too, good stuff.

when you go fmk dash, do you usually like to go for a TT or a jab and then TT, or grab?