Abel Beginner Thread: "It takes more than brute strength..."

okay so just to clarify, what would happen in this situation:

Abel does step kick dash cancel > Light TT, but my opponent is mashing on crouch tech and has a 3 frame crouching short. Im assuming based off of the properties and frame data, that Abel’s TT will get stuffed, correct ? (assuming the opponents crouch tech is in range)

Honestly I don’t know :-/

fair enough, thank you =)

if the step kick hit, then the TT would WRECK the 3 frame masher.

If it is blocked, then it would get stuffed. But this is beauty of abel. If you KNOW the bastard is 3 frame normal mashing, You can beat it ease by doing stepkick -> dash in -> normal throw(1 frame window but doable[lol just mash grab] ) or Ex TT

:hk: Has a key roll in a very small number of match-ups and on the whole it’s seldom used for post UKD set-ups.
The reason being is its obvious animation.

The visible animation difference between :lk: and :mk: are very similar and hard to differentiate. :hk: Roll on the other hand has a longer, clunkier and a more noticeable appearance.
If the opponent is aware of where :hk: roll lands after each set up, it will be hard to to confuse them.
which is bad for us.

If I’m the opponent and you just TT’d me,
and I know that a :hk: roll from that point would land you in front of me,
and you DO a :hk: roll
I will know firmly that you’ll land in front of me thus ruining a piece of your 50/50 game.

Ah I see. Thanks, makes sense.

Whats the startup of U2 in AE 2012? I’ve seen 8f in all frame datas but in AE patch notes it said they was nerfing its startup so i dont know if 8f is updated or not.

10f

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Im sorry guys, I dont know where to put this and I didnt want to create a new thread in you guys’ forum, but I’m looking for some good Abel players to spar with. This character is just the bane of my existence seems like. Anyone interested? Preferably XBL. I play Gouken and if it helps I’m #16 on PSN. I just got a 360 for the better competition and am currently #39 working my way back up. I’m just looking for some Abel players to spar with so I can learn to deal with this character better.

Edit: Im on EST, Northern VA

Abel Rage Thread :slight_smile:

My bad, I didn’t even know about it and will take my post that way.

Hey guys, what’s a good punish for a whiffed DP after step kick xx cl. hp cancel into CoD xx FADC xx HK roll (dp bait)? Seems like even with a double dash I can’t get into position for a punish before the recovery ends. I could always go for another step kick combo, but I dont have the 1F links 100% down. Should I just lk/mk roll and go for a dash xx cr. HP xx FS punish instead? Thx

Im assuming u mean doing cod first hit fadc into a roll do bait a guy mashing dp during ur combos. If that is what u mean, just do. Light roll~~~

But yeah, as an abel player; not having stepkick into cl fierce execution should never be an excuse to not do it. As abel it NEEDS to be 100%, or very damn close. Grind it out bro.

I get it about 90% of the time but online it doesn’t connect due to minute lag sometimes. I’m working on it :slight_smile:

Thx for the help

As an exercise I’ve been doing Abel trial 24 over and over again and the cl fierce link is starting to feel alot easier now, I do not plink, so I have to practice it alooooot I legitimately suck at Plinking lol(Still practicing)

Anyone else having issues with FS after crouching fierce with full meter from the right side of the screen? When I do it from the left, I get FS. If I do it from the right, I get Heartless.

Yeah it happens to me from time to time on training mode. I assume it’s an execution problem, though.

Way I do it to get FS more is DF then FB motion, thing is I think Super comes out when the motion is started from down instead of downforward but even then I get Breathless some times when the speed is increased ina real match. Just like sometimes when I input my U1 motion too fast to punish something ill get EX FS lol

how do I beat Akuma’s vortex? I get owned by good Akumas. Seems like when dealing with Akuma, a knockdown = death.

I’ve been getting pretty good at guessing when an opponent is going to try to jump away from my step kick pressure once I’m in so I’m mixing in a psychic falling sky sometimes after step kick dash if I see him do it more than once. I’ve caught few peeps with this lol, though I’ve guessed wrong a couple times too :stuck_out_tongue: The better players catch on quick and vary up their escape tactics lol. BTW is it possible to cheat using lag in this game? Sometimes I’m fighting a player and I’m watching a slideshow, yet he’s doing full combo’s on me lol