A3: Chun Li

APOC

Ok… reading again I realized that I probably could’ve posted something else. Instead of just “complaining”. :slight_smile: It’s just that when I read these forums I see way too many people just shitting on each other. It seems like a lot of people would rather tell people they stink instead of helping them. I do understand that some people just don’t listen (they do, but don’t really UNDERSTAND), but I think crapping on thse people doesn’t do anything really but fuel their ignorance. They might read your post and realize some things, but just because you came off like you’re their cocky big brother I think they’re more likely to try and find something (ANYTHING) wrong with your post to keep their egos. I guess I was in a bad mood (I defended GHGH… didn’t he say Guile had the advantage over Ryu in ST?)

And just for record, Tourney proof is an excellent way of showing that you are a skilled player (who obviously has to know what he’s doing), but factual in-game proof is another form that cannot be argued. This can get lost in mind-games and such (where is it’s more about decisions), but is a better way of showing people another view rather than saying “see how well it works on >insert cali player here<, LOL”. They might think thay might be able to compete with the cali player (however wrong or right it may be), and the whole thing is lost and they just feel resentment towards you… Insert another post of flames.

I dunno… Call me the Ned Flanders of SRK, but I usually don’t find it at all hilarious when someone rips onto someone else, and then 2-4 people respond with posts that do nothing but praise the ripper and “LOL” at the rippee… You’re virtually laughing at the guy and high-fiving each other in the process. You really think the guy is going to submit and own up after that? :slight_smile: I guess not many people see it that way, but I was raised in an irish-christian family so maybe I -am- the Ned flanders of SRK. :slight_smile:

I hate to say it, but I know people personally (in my local extra crappy old SF scene) that causually read these forums that wouldn’t mind seeing you lose. :slight_smile:

Which Is why I reconsidered my post on the first place… I guess there will always be people like this. :-/ (Jinston?JB Gainz?) but I do take some of your posts in the negative because it IS in the negative… towards the person you’re replying to anyhow.

There’s a difference?? :slight_smile:

Yeah… New games are lame, but anyhow… Now you’ve made me feel bad! Don’t get me wrong… you sound (er,read) like a pretty decent guy, who knows his stuff, and likes to have a bit of care-free stabbing at people you don’t really know personally… But I was just pissed off at the time for reading a bunch of posts where people do nothing but shit on each other. and now people will resent me because of your decision to post less… that was your plan all along! wasn’t it Apoc?! :slight_smile:

POPOBLO

Am I challenging his tips? No. You don’t have to post in his defense against me.

you’re right, it was just ghgh. my mistake.

and gawsome’s second paragraph pretty much summed it up for me. unless i go to evo or some other huge tourney, i’ll never meet apoc, although he is always there to help whoever in terms of SF knowledge.

well… “Always” is a pretty strong word. But yeah, Apoc usually does help out in areas that I guess he feels he can. I never said he didn’t really… He’s opened my eyes a few times to certain things I had overlooked… and I thanked him for it.

It’s not your fault. I already post less. I just have less time on my hands and when I use it to post and then I feel shit on; it makes me feel like I’m wasting my time. I’d much rather post something and ppl could take it or leave it. I don’t understand why ppl want to start arguments or find ways to dis. It just makes me take a break from posting helpfully because it takes too much time to argue a point that needn’t be argued. I didn’t mean to say that YOU or anyone in particular would stop me from posting. It was just to say that posting isn’t worth the time when ppl use it for arguing. An honest argument is good. An argument specifically aimed at making someone look bad isn’t interesting to me.

I’m a click away from SRK! I’m not going anywhere. I may duck out now and then but if I was going to outgrow my love for SF games it would’ve happened years ago, heheh.

Anyway…last post before MWC!!!

Apoc.

A3: Countering Chunli cfk abuse?

Any suggestions for shotos/Sagat?

Akuma: Walk up to chunli, if she uses crouching FK, VC through it, walk up a tiny bit more, crouching sk->fireball-> combo from there. Or VC then simply red fireball into an unblockable.

sigh

Shoto’s:

  1. Standing short will beat it clean
  2. Bait the whiff and punish (Low roundhouse for example)
  3. Akuma: Standing forward will stuff it

Sagat:

  1. Standing short or low fierce are the only things that come to mind (Though I would go with standing short more)

Also, shoto low strongs on a counter work. Meaning, you have to be in range for the strong and extend it just before she extends her RH. For example, cross up with a shoto and then do 2 low shorts, stand up and walk forward(at which point Chun notices and wants to sweep you)and then crouch and hit strong. Basically, you set the counter strong up by baiting the RH into your strong similar to baiting a whiff but a lil better because, unless she wants to get tossed, Chun is going to want to do something to keep you from walking up like that. More times than not, the low strong will take out whatever she’s doing at this point.

Also, shoto low forwards, while walking. Cr. mk, when not walking forward, is going to suck in this match. You want to be walking forward and hitting this right when your in range for her cr. RH. Unfortunately, it would take too long for me to explain why walking forward seems to change the priority of this move so, just understand that walking forward makes ALL the difference in using this as a counter.

Between Inigma’s examples and these, you now have multiple options for countering this bs move:) Good Luck!

Apoc.

God damn notation.

Are you talking about Roundhouse Kick or Forward Kick?
The post says “c.fk” but Apocs response seem to be about c.rk. I don’t care either way, but I hate when people talk about “Fierce Kick” and then abriviate it.</pointless post>

True enough, but I just wanted them to get a very basic and safe way of going about countering it (Even though it is just one move)… Not saying that way is unsafe, but if they are afraid of that attack then it would be really ballsy to just walk up on her and challenge it you know?

Besides you can sorta spam the standing shorts and not be punished for it(Sorta)… Also if they can not deal with low roundhouse then I am pretty sure they are not gonna get any free jump-ins let alone cross-ups on her…

Word. I didn’t mean to discount your advice. On the contrary, I was just adding a bit more that were in my head. St. short is, by far, the safest and most practical counter.

Btw, I’m talking ROUNDHOUSE, heheh.

Apoc.

Never thought otherwise, just giving a “safe” approach over the “right” approach…

Alpha 3-Chun Li

why do she have crazy priority?? I mean I play Balrog and Sagat, and it seem like everything she throws I get hit and when im at a hittin’ distance, it whiffs. This dude turtles and he basically a scrub. I guess Im a scrub too, but atleast I can combo j.rh.c.sh.xxGenocide. He does Random supers and has to do the notation 3 or 4 times before the shit comes out. anyway this shit is frustratin’ cause I kno Im betta than him. he abuse c.rh A LOT!!! Jumps in with Fierce then combos Fierce alot. Stupid shit…lol. what can stop this bitch?? advice. PLEASE.

Chun Li is a scrub killer. Even in the hands of scrubs. And as you say, you’re a scrub.

Besides, Both Rog and Sagat have hard fights aganist her (especially Rog).

Try Zangief or one of the shotos.

Zangeif: Jump Splash all day (D+FP), Anti Air WIth Crouching Kick lariat. Use Fierce/Forward for pokes, GGPO.

Ryu/Ken/Akuma: Throw fireballs and bait her into jumping, DP her. Don’t let her cross you up.

Ha Ha, Nah, this is at my Job. Im tryin’ to get T5 there!! I think Im goin’ to stick with Ryu. any good tatics with usin’ him against Chun? And Im not that scrubby, just NOT an Elite player in A3, I just start playin’ last year.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1718780&postcount=1690

why it seems like she doesnt Whiff any attacks!?!?!?!?

Just use crouching fierce kick, up-kick super !

:confused: with what character?? Im not usin’ her Im fightin’ against her.