A Litany of Hate: In Defense of the FGC

[BiGGDaddyCane]

God I cant wait for this to die.

Shit got extremely blown out of proportion to where its effecting the decision makings of the FG superiors.

I just cant wait till will all get back to the love, hype, & lust for fighting games. Thats all that matters, & that’s all we as FG’ers should be acknowledged for at the end of the day. All of this other business (esports & shit like it) shit seems to be corroding or minds even though I know its for the better good of growing the community.

And yea I myself dont like that shit on the front page but lets just get back to normal.

Hate harmonizing in Drama. Not good…

[MikeBreezy92]

Honestly if I were Marn…I wouldn’t have apologized. People need to stop giving a damn about what people outside the community (I mean the competitive gaming community) think. Aris was stupid. Marn and other guy were making light of a situation. FGC needs to grow in ways that can benefit it and not the rest of the competitive community. Taking away seeding points from WNF was a bitch move and stupid for punishing those people who really wanted those point because they said something that an outside community took to heart instead of simple black humor. My 2 cents.

[ghosties]

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g7543k

[LEFT]As most of my friends know, things that happened this past week have left me feeling very disheartened. I’ve been staying away from reading all the articles involving Cross Assault since I got home. Today I was curious enough to check out a couple. @ProtomCannon’s article on SRK (http://shoryuken.com/2012/02/29/back-to-basics-getting-beyond-the-drama/) made me remember why I love the fighting game community so much. I’ve always loved being a part of it, but for the first time in my life I was told by my coach that I did not belong, and this attitude was heavily reinforced throughout the week. It was the worst feeling ever.[/LEFT]

[LEFT]This article made me think of Evo and how much fun I’ve had every single time I’ve gone. It’s an undescribable experience. Then I thought about NorCal Regionals, and the team tournaments I’ve been to where people have depended on me (and I pulled through). Countless sessions at Keystone II and Scunsion’s, where people are willing to open the doors to their homes so we can grind out games and level up together. Spending every Friday at local arcades, meeting the oddball Gen or Hakan player that walks in and bodies someone and leaves everyone speechless. I realized even though I’m going through a very hard time right now, if I don’t get through this I will be giving up all of these things I love. [/LEFT]

[LEFT]I thought I was a strong enough person to be on this show but the fact is one person, with the assistance of a few stream monsters, brought me to my breaking point. Maybe some people (like the people who wrote the @Kotaku article) don’t understand that it was just one person who did this to me. I understand it looks like this is the FGC’s fault, I felt that way too until I got home and had a couple days to process everything that happened. I was so appalled at what Aris said on the 5th night that I could not stop crying, the next day I made the decision to leave because of it.[/LEFT]

[LEFT]But that night, and every minute since then, I’ve received hundreds of comments/tweets from people both in and out of the FGC supporting me. Those people outnumber Aris like 200-1. Maybe I’m a quitter, maybe I’m weak, maybe I’ve been through enough bullshit in my life that my breaking point is lower than “normal”; the fact is, at that moment the only people who could make me feel part of the FGC again was the FGC. All the support made me realize that only one person has wronged me, not the entire FGC… I have support there. [/LEFT]

[LEFT]So Kotaku, if you want to see how supportive and kind the FGC is, I can send you a screen cap of my inbox flooded with support from these people. [/LEFT]

[LEFT]In short: my coach was a jerk, he doesn’t represent the entire community. I’m not ever leaving. See you at NCR.[/LEFT]

[LEFT]I’ll leave this here: [/LEFT]
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[xesaie]

Honestly if I were Marn…I wouldn’t have apologized. People need to stop giving a damn about what people outside the community (I mean the competitive gaming community) think. Aris was stupid. Marn and other guy were making light of a situation. FGC needs to grow in ways that can benefit it and not the rest of the competitive community. Taking away seeding points from WNF was a bitch move and stupid for punishing those people who really wanted those point because they said something that an outside community took to heart instead of simple black humor. My 2 cents.

Marn was probably worried about Madcatz among other things.

[Master_Chibi]

Does this mean I can’t use my avatar anymore?

I like breasts

[Mr.X]

Edit: K3lloggz, presumably people don’t know about it, I hadn’t heard that for one. The fat fuck needs to shut up.

And it’s nice he’s not a member of the mutual masturbation society.

I’ve had the misfortune to interact personally with keits several times. He’s just a massive tool, and he looooooves being important in the community. We need more players and fewer suckerfish like him.

reads that stuff Keits is such a ludicrous suckup weasel, its kind of disgusting. He’s just gotta make it absolutely clear that he’s on the bosses side.

I want to like you Marn, quit being a retard!

I think the creepy/flirty vibe is something that should be discouraged, but is also kind of inevitable. We’re dealing with gamers here, after all

What’s not acceptable is the outright angry hostility to anything without a dick.

PS: I think Aris is just one of those guys whose social filters are just ‘broken’. From everything he’s said he has no idea what’s wrong with what happened, or of what is/isn’t appropriate.

Edit@factory: It was about encouraging women to take part in the scene, and encouraging them to enter the tourneys. I’d agree it was a little shortsighted of them to not see the inevitable “ARGHHHH! AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!” response from the dicktards, but I can also see how it made sense on paper as a way to encourage women to show up.

Expecting us to treat each other as human beings is the base level of behavior. We need to not be acting like 12 year old boys.

And let me reiterate, its not just the words, a lot of harsh words get said in general, its the palpable hostility.

[xesaie]

Insults aren’t actually harassment, nor is harsh language.

You have reinforced my idea that you don’t understand the issue at all.

[Hogosha]

Stuff defending Yipes

You misunderstand. I’m not saying people can’t say awkward/offensive/whatever things. I’m saying, when you’re commentating for a MAJOR, you should probably keep a little leash on saying those things. Seriously. When I get weirded out, it’s WEIRD.

Someone on the front page said it best when they compared this to basketball.

You have the guys on the street playing pick-up games and think they’d be top shit in the NBA if it weren’t for all those rules and regulations. Then you have the actual guys in the NBA that put a little control on what they do and say when under the public eye and, because of it, they make a living doing what they love.

I’ll add to it and say that the color commentary for both of these is quite different, and rightfully so. We’re at an age where sponsorship IS happening for some of our top players. Where the companies responsible for these games ARE putting coin in the winners pocket, whoever they may be. Where 10,000 viewers tune in on any given weekend to see their favorite players play their favorite games and listen to their favorite commentators (alright, some just tune in to say random shit, but hey). Where Alex Fucking Valle shows up and makes sure the genre HE plays is still alive and represented.

Is it seriously THAT much to ask to show a small amount of restraint when you involve yourself in promoting and covering a Major? To think to yourself, “Huh. Maybe I shouldn’t use the phrase ‘rape that fucking pussy’ on stream when my face and voice is right next to the logos for Capcom, MadCatz, Atlus, Hori, and Namco.” Or, “You know, might be a mildly good idea to not be in front of the camera when I start betting on players.”

Is it?

Edit - And before someone uses the “it’s live, there’s hype, people do things in the heat of the moment, etc.” defense, realize that this isn’t mob mentality…it’s just you on camera. Your defense equates to “Man, she was just so hot and I kept thinking about how hot she was, I just got carried away and didn’t stop staring at her tits while she was right in front of me.” Sorry, your hype levels don’t excuse being extra effing creepy.

[Mr.X]

And now for Mr. X’s top 3

Isn’t your career working with the mentally disabled? You sure say the “r” word a lot, thought you’d be a little more sensitive.

Whoa attacking a woman because she doesn’t fit with in the mold you’ve have crafted in your mind on how a woman should act? Tsk tsk.

Two fer one, nice shooting Tex.

I mean, I’m looking at the definition: to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.

With your front page comments on some recent Skullgirls articles, I feel harassed tbh. Why are you constantly attacking us?

[xesaie]

And now for Mr. X’s top 3
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1. I said that in the other thread, one of the things about people who work in the MRDD field, they tend to use the word ‘retard’ and it’s variations a lot, but absolutley never in relation to actually disabled people. It’s just one of those things, probably a way of dealing with what can be pretty tough situations sometimes.

2. Sherry’s an Uncle Tom pretty much, ‘not harassing people’ is a bit different than ‘being forced to like them’ or ‘never saying bad things about them.’ I dislike her as a person, and you’ve got to see that I’m not terribly shy about expressing my dislike.

3. Oh c’mon, that was funny! There’s, again, a difference between popping off and ‘harassment’.

So in the end all you have is that I’m a big meanie who says things you don’t like. FGC is tough and hardcore right?

[ghosties]

Xesaie: He’s against sexism… bitch.

[xesaie]

Xesaie: He’s against sexism… bitch.

That was also funny

[NickRocks]

i wanna see a hype sfxt money match where its dudley v dhalsim and someone yells “fuck this nigga up” and see how many people get butthurt

[Noble_Cactus]

I will add that I think EVO points being revoked from WNF for everyone is going overboard. A simple warning would have sufficed.

[throwing_is_cheap]

Thank you based Mr. X.

God, the last time I saw a random nobody be this preachy it was novril. zzz

[Geese_Pants]

Marn and ETR are horrible commentators in general…so no crocodile tears from me.

[throwing_is_cheap]

Marn and ETR are horrible commentators in general…so no crocodile tears from me.

Yeah but should they be dragged out and beaten in the public light just because of e-sports? Fuck that shit, they’re our brothers in arms man.

[Cryoh]

Marn and ETR are horrible commentators in general…so no crocodile tears from me.

My nigga.

(Cryoh is taken out back and pummeled in the name of eSports)

[NickRocks]

http://www.levelup-series.com/statement-regarding-wednesday-night-fights/

welp, that does it. ill stay playing my old games which get side tourneys. I’m not getting sfxt because of this hyperbolic and stupid reaction

[Geese_Pants]

Yeah but should they be dragged out and beaten in the public light just because of e-sports? Fuck that shit, they’re our brothers in arms man.

They may be our “brothers in arms”…but that doesn’t make them good commentators.