A groove bison's silly head blash combo

[snakedizzle209]

If you wanna find some Raiden matches then you should go to Justdefend.com. thats where i got that one video of him. I dont know what its called, but hopefully you should be able to find it somewhere on there.

-SnakeDizzle

[Onyx_Chameleon]

If you wanna find some Raiden matches then you should go to Justdefend.com. thats where i got that one video of him. I dont know what its called, but hopefully you should be able to find it somewhere on there.

-SnakeDizzle

:tup: THANX!

[SNAAAAKE]

Uh…I am trying to learn A bison but I always run into minor problems.Here is the deal,I do fine when I am doing DP+MP BUT whenever I try using DP+fierce in the corner I always fuck it up for reason.Like after 2-3 times the opponent just falls.Now what exactly am I doing wrong here ??

I mean MP is fine but it doesnt do much damage…most I get is like 30-40 hits.Any timing issues involved in this ?? I just red the rest of the thread but still cant figure out why I mess up when using DP+fierce. Not doing it right or some shit ??

[gig4ls]

If they just fall it’s cause you’re not cancelling fast enough. dp+mp has a faster startup than dp+hp.

I wish I could actually do more than 30 hits…

[System_1]

Ok, that combo that you are talking about is the infamous “paint that fence” combo pioneered by BAS. This combo is known of very well by all good CvS2 players and it can be up to around 70 hits. Every good A-groove player uasually has Sakura or Bison on their team. Often both. They both have set ups that can link into CCs that do unbelievable damage. Bison isnt cheap AT ALL. If there is no way that he is cheap. Nothing in CvS2 is cheap at all. Even that biggest game altering glitch in the game is allowed in tournys. Im talking about roll cancel.

Acually Bison’s and Sakura’s are the best combos in the game. And there are no infinites in CvS2(except for Kim’s). The way A-groove was made was that they give you the ability to make your own combo, but you can only do lv.1 supers. You cant kill anyone with the CC itself, but the setups add damge to your combo. For example Sakura has a setup to CC that will leave them dizzy by the end of the CC, then as there dizzy you can start up another combo then as your bar fills from the combo you can then link to a super. I use this combo and it leaves them with a centimeter of health left and comes out to around 90 hits!!! The same effect can be used by a good C-Chunli. IMO, if used corectly C and A are the 2 best grooves in the game. But C may seem basic, but if you have skill ou can take it to the next level using one combo dizzies then they finish the job by using little pokes that get there bar up and connect to a super in one combo. I saw a video of a C-chun that killed a guy with ONE COMBO. I cant do this one though. High level CvS is alot of RC, CCs and lv.2 cancels.

One of the things that makes Bison good is his ability to set up a CC(custom combo) from just about anywhere on the field. This makes him VERY intimidating with meter. And him and Sakura have setups to CCs that can devestate somebodys complete life bar. A-groove takes alot of practice to learn, but there is a reason why it’s the best. If you’re losing by ALOT then you can make a full comeback with one CC or you can push your lead up even furthur with a CC. And if you know what you’re doing you can setup a CC against anyone. A-groove is also perfect because it gives you a chance to RC which is important against high level players. If you look at all the tourny charts from last couple of years then you’ll notice that the top three teams ALWAYS have Bison and Sakura in it. Follow the link to see the tourny results from the last Evo…

www.evo2k.com

Remember that nothing in CVS2 is cheap. When I was starting out I thought that a ratio 4 K-Blanka was the cheapest thing EVER. But then I acually learned about the game and now when I lose it’s because of the other players skill. Not because there cheap. The only thing that many people consider cheap is roll cancel electricity with Blanka and roll cancel the chun li kick to C.Mk -> super. But even that is no reason to get mad or discouraged. CvS2 is there fairest game you can play by far and there is nothing at all cheap about it.

blanka is cheap, it takes less skill 2 be good with him =/

[snakedizzle209]

blanka is cheap, it takes less skill 2 be good with him =/

lmao, no hes not! he has so many damn weaknesses its not even funny. The only thing that makes him even kinda cheap is roll cancel electricity. He isnt cheap, hes top tier and if being really good is cheap then I dont think theres any point to playing a game. He may seem cheap cause’ you cant handle him, but you need to learn that because a charcter has good attributes that doesnt make him cheap. That just makes him a better character than some other characters in the game. I supose all top tier characters are cheap huh? I used to think like that, but then I wised up to the game.

-SnakeDizzle

[vasAZNion13]

lmao, no hes not! he has so many damn weaknesses its not even funny. The only thing that makes him even kinda cheap is roll cancel electricity. He isnt cheap, hes top tier and if being really good is cheap then I dont think theres any point to playing a game. He may seem cheap cause’ you cant handle him, but you need to learn that because a charcter has good attributes that doesnt make him cheap. That just makes him a better character than some other characters in the game. I supose all top tier characters are cheap huh? I used to think like that, but then I wised up to the game.

-SnakeDizzle

it depends on you look at the word “cheap”. in a way you can argue that Kyo is cheap. he’s got fast whiffing moves and does a shit load off c.shorts. once you get in, you can easily mixup your opponent. CHEAP. it all depends on your view of cheap.

being top tier means they have something that makes the character much better than other characters, and whatever it is, is in reality…quite cheap.

[popoblo]

being top tier means they have something that makes the character much better than other characters, and whatever it is, is in reality…quite cheap.

sad but true. but honestly, NOTHING is “cheap” in cvs2. until you realize that, you’re still a scrub. everything is a tactic, and every tactic is countered by another tactic. welcome to advanced level cvs2:tup:.

[System_1]

Well, I also do think that it takes less skill to play with certain charaters, but I do agree that every tactic can be countered by another tactic. Roll cancel electricity isnt a problem for my geese, dodge high counter that shit. The fact that I dont like facing blanka and i hate him, makes me find, develop, and try to work twice as hard to make sure I WOOP HIS ASS. Remember blanka’s blanka ball can be countered. For example: Blanka Vs Bison(A-groove), bison blocks a blanka ball, I would counter with “activate”, C.Fk, S.Mp, [SJ.Fk x3], DPxN, super (DMG=9500
or more.). So bison can counter the blanka ball pretty horribly, then again a good blanka player should know better.

Anyway, I guess it just comes down to determination.
By the way, some cammy players like to do the spiral arrow from a distance, to counter this with A bison, activate, then do the combo above.

I also think that someones opinion shouldn’t classify them as a scrub, I think his gameplay and knowledge of the game should define there rank in the game. :tup:

By the way popoblo do u still play with eagle too? :pleased:

[System_1]

ima noob (tournament wise) anyways i had a ball with bison in a-groove, just wondering why do people just dp+hp, i like switching it off (ex.dp,hp,hp,j.lp-mk,hp,mk,hp…) and basically enjoy the juggle i have on my opponent, is there a way to get optimal damage this way? im figuring it dp+hp cause thats the way everyones sayin they do it but like i said ima noob.

[Hail_And_Kill]

DP+HP is for full damage. If you fuck around with the juggling and shit its not really helping because after 9 hits - everything is 100 damage DP+HP is faster than juggling with j. attacks.

[System_1]

i love a- bison, its sooo beautiful
hahah its why i started to play him, because the custom looks good, and the damage is a plus, also ppl say, oh props for doing the combo :encore:
But here’s all the combo starters i know for him. easy to hard

1. jump mp, mp custom.
2. activate, c.mk, c.hp, c.hp, s.hk, c.hk
3. c.lp, c.lp, s.mp, <,>mk, cc, s.mp
4. (corrner) flash kick with hp, hold toward them hp again, (u know what move i mean), cc, s.mp
5. cross uo j.hk, c.mk, s.mp, <,> mk, cc
6. cross up j.hk, c.lp, c.lp, cc, c.mk, s.hk, c.hk s.lp, sj
   no real point to the one above, but itr works.
7. (corrner) DEEP AS HELL c.hk, cc, s.mp, dp.hp (the key here is DEEP, like sagats c.hp, c.hp cmbo deep)
8. (corrner) his stomp move, but the punch after, it has to knock them outta the air, cc.

p.s. my favorite way to get them to the corrner is any mid screen starter, ex.)c.mk, c.hp, c.hp, s.hk, c.hk, dp+hp, <,>mk, dp+hp, <,>mk, dp+hp N*. (if u do it like that you will only need to do 3 reps of <,>mk, dp+hp till their in the corrner
OH SO PREETY, theres a few more variations out there, go find or make them up!

[System_1]

Johnny be good, sorry I missed you at FFA I had to go.