3S: Ken Questions

paulee · May 28, 2004, 8:17pm

not a good idea… you’re gonna eat st. strong, pause, strong-fierce super…

exodus · May 28, 2004, 8:56pm

who wins the guessing game?

Cano2k · May 28, 2004, 10:58pm

You can also get thrown. st. strong into throw is good

I thought c. strong had to be parried high.

Cano

kal_el · May 29, 2004, 12:45am

i think all crouching punches with the exception of Makoto’s c. fierce can be parried either low or high. wait. i think Chun-Li’s c. strong is also a low parry only. but other than those 2, you can parry any crouching punch high or low.

Solaris · May 30, 2004, 3:51am

Crouching Forward - cancel - Shippujinraikyaku

*Originally posted by Segaru *
**Sorry for probably being the millionth guy asking about this, but what’s the method in doing the confirmation hit combos with Ken?

The one some of you have mentioned in early posts (Crouching forward - cancel - Shippu jinraikyaku) is one I’ve seen been done always by Ken and Chun Li players.

I tried practising it on the DC version after I put the dummy to random block, but I still can’t do it properly it seems. Some of you said that you have super long time frames to cancel into the SA, but even so I still seem to to be either too late or too quickly.

What’s the motion for this confirmation hit combo? Do you do D+FK, DF, F, D, DF, F then hit K if Ken hits? Don’t you have to have lightning fast reaction skills to see the hit then press the button? I try, but the super never comes out (too late of frames?), and when super DOES come out it’s done so fast that it’s just a gamble whether the opponent has blocked or not.

I also have the Japanese arcade version of it (8th of June 1999 version). Does this version differ in many aspects to the DC version?

Would be very glad if anyone could help me out. **

the DC version is gay so you cant hit confirm shit… the best way to do it is… get used to looking at the score at top… if the number changes when you kick low… then let that super fly… if not, then dont…

BTW nanitaberu… i dont eat shit, but nice name and sig anywayz…

System_1 · May 30, 2004, 1:31pm

low parry down strong or down forward = i’m supering if i see any movement

System_1 · June 2, 2004, 12:42am

Solaris: Wow, bloody genious! Thanks a lot!

Sorry for being a beginner at this homepage, but how do I access the multimedia sections? I seem to get Access forbidden messages when trying to enter.

glass · June 19, 2004, 7:33pm

Solaris: do you actually do that? i never thought of that but… i don’t think i could train myself to look all the way up there in the heat of a match 0_0

eks · June 22, 2004, 3:04am

Re: Crouching Forward - cancel - Shippujinraikyaku

gangster

glass · June 22, 2004, 5:35pm

c.SK c.JP c.SK xx SA3

i used to think that there were some situations where c.SK c.JP c.SK would hit for 3 hits where c.SK c.SK c.SK would only hit for 2 (that maybe the c.JP pushed the opponent back less than the c.SK). i thus learned how to do the above combo using the input

2.SK 2.JP(hold) 362.SK(hold) 36.RK(release SK)

now i’m realizing c.SK c.SK c.SK does fine in most situations and is easier :wtf:

are they in fact essentially the same for all situations?

(ie was i high when i concluded c.SK x 3 pushed back more than c.SK c.JP c.SK)

System_1 · June 22, 2004, 5:56pm

short short short super does not work well on shotos while they are standing.

so you gotta do short jab short against them if you need that extra 3rd hit of hit confirmation.

i think there may be other characters short short short will not hit on standing… not sure though.

BillyKane · June 22, 2004, 7:38pm

#1 - cr. short, cr. short, cr. short:

a) standing and crouching = Gouki, Ibuki, Yun, Yang, Oro, Remy, Chun, Elena, Makoto, Alex, Dudley, Hugo

b) crouching only = Ryu, Ken, Sean, Urien, Q

c) won’t connect at all = 12, Necro

#2 - cr. short, cr. jab, cr. short:

a) standing and crouching = Gouki, Ken, Ryu, Sean, Ibuki, Yun, Yang, Oro, Remy, 12, Chun, Elena, Makoto, Alex, Dudley, Hugo

b) crouching only = Necro, Urien, Q

c) won’t connect at all = nobody

#3 - cr. jab, cr. jab, cr. jab:

a) crouching = Urien, Alex, Dudley

b) standing = Hugo

c) won’t connect at all = Gouki, Ryu, Ken, Sean, Ibuki, Yun, Yang, Oro, Remy, 12, Necro, Chun, Elena, Makoto, Q

System_1 · June 22, 2004, 7:50pm

thanks a lot BK, i didnt know gouki’s hit box was different from the other shotos o_o.

BillyKane · June 22, 2004, 8:00pm

Yeah, it’s weird… But personally I still use cr. short, cr. jab, cr. short on him because it’s a lot more reliable.

Josh-TheFunkDOC · June 23, 2004, 3:37am

Yep indeed, Oro (maybe other characters too) can cross him up if he’s in the corner, but not any of the other shotos.

-Josh

glass · June 23, 2004, 12:27pm

ah. so the hand muscle cramps were worth it

thanks! oh and this is probably different for DC right?

BillyKane · June 23, 2004, 7:00pm

These are actually DC, but I haven’t noticed any particular difference in arcade so far.

_3rd_Wael · June 28, 2004, 11:34am

Yes the shotos does not have the same hitboxes, another example would be the Lk version of Gouki’s Tatsu: if ryu and ken are crouching it won’t hit them, but it would hit gouki for sure.

My 2 cents (yup bk I’m also back on this forum ;))

kal_el · June 28, 2004, 9:01pm

Akuma’s short Tatsumaki also hits a crouching Sean.

Ryu’s short Tatsumaki hits a crouching Akuma, but doesn’t hit a crouching Ken, Ryu or Sean.

you have to 2-in-1 into the Tatsumaki (for both characters using it) using either a medium attack (close s. forward, close s. strong, c. forward-----c. forward is the most reliable in this case though) or a c. fierce. s. fierce pushes them too far.

DooM · July 26, 2004, 2:58pm

I guess I’ll ask here… I noticed that after DP-ing Elena you can reset her with a jab midscreen that is, i think i hit her out of the air? … does this also work for others? And against chun-li close strong xx dp, kara-dp works, does this also work with others?? or at least dp, kara-dp midscreen against some ppl?