2011-2012 NFL Discussion and Fantasy - Payton and RG3, where they going

So we have 1 keeper and we forfeit the round we drafted them the year before. My friend drafter A. Foster in round 5 last year and he’s keeping him but he drafts #3 this year. He’ll have a guaranteed two top 3 overall draft picks! Lucky motherfucker!!

I agree. The popsicle jerseys were awesome. Those current ones are ugly. I never liked them.

Nope, those are the eagles throwback jerseys. I kinda like those.

A google search for “tampa bay yellow jerseys” turns up this. I’m thinking that the yellow must primarily be from knock off sites that are trying to imitate the popsicle color though.

What’s really funny about the Bucs winning a superbowl is that Gruden won it with Dungy’s team. Dungy should have two rings. Gruden didn’t deserve that ring IMO.

gruden didnt deserve that ring cuz the fn raiders shoulda won

too bad they raidered out

Uh well Gruden got screwed the year the pats won it. So no I think he deserved it considering his other team made it there.

The Raiders were pretty much screwed when the Bucs went to the Super Bowl. Gruden knew their playbook (I don’t think it was changed from the year before). That Raider team was pretty good, but it was obvious that their window of opportunity was going to be short (Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, and Rich Gannon were pretty old). That Bucs defense was one of the best in history, though (they are below the 2000 Ravens defense, IMO, as well as a few other defenses).

Yeah that was an auto win for Gruden, they ran the same exact offense and defense as when Gruden was there.

I think Gruden felt the wrath of Al Davis when he got fired from the Raiders. With the exception of the SB win, was Gruden better with the Raiders than the Bucs?

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Raiders I think, but I have to go back and see the roster. I think Gruden built that team up. Tampa was ready made when he won the SB. If I’m not mistaken they may have added Brad Johnson over the other qb Shaun Hill right?

Free I hope?

9-8-11 can’t come soon enough. Green Bay area schools are getting out at 11am that day; football truly is life for those people.

Ya I am pretty sure they added the Giraffe and he worked some magic with that pretty iffy offense to make it somewhat of a force. I agree Dungey had an amazing defense in place but I don’t know if that team wins the superbowl that year without Grudens additions. I am pretty damn sure the Raiders make it there if Gruden is still the coach lol at Davis and his worthless ego.

yes it’s free

Shaun King started for the Bucs in 99-00 IIRC. They added Brad Johnson in 01.

Funny how King himself went from leading the Bucs to the NFC championship in his rookie year to benchwarmer 2 years later.

Whitey be keepin’ da brothas down, yo.

Seriously though, black QBs are lacking hardcore. I don’t know if it’s a lack of opportunities or what, but I can count all the great black QBs on a single hand… and I have to start seriously stretching after Warren Moon…

Offsides…the whole offensive line

The money Vick is making now, danggg.

I don’t know man if they were really great don’t you think they would be drafted and given the same chance? If it is the case it must be happening at the High school and lower levels. Maybe some less publicized colleges.

Yeah, I’m thinking it’s the lack of opportunities. Like, at the grade school level, coaches are probably like, “no son, you’re far too fast and can jump far too high to just waste your talents throwing the ball… let’s make you a receiver.” The 8 year old doesn’t care at that point and is just happy that he’s playing organized football, so he doesn’t even tryout to be QB anymore.

It’s revenge for the accusation that white men can’t jump.

We can’t, but still, that hurt.

We just recently forgave Spike Lee and let the Knicks make the playoffs again.

Is this also the place to talk about dat Madden? I’m planning on getting the game for the first time lol.