2 PCB's in one stick - Possible?

I’ve read through most of this thread and the thread by Kyle about doing dual pcbs twice. I’m using a HRAP2’s pcb and a gamestop matcatz 2008/09 pcb and I tested both controllers thoroughly before trying this to make sure they work. When soldering I made sure to test that I didn’t cross any of the contacts with their ground.

So the issue I bring here is that after I had everything wired up I started testing. The 360 pcb works fine, I was able to screw around in the dashboard and on BlazBlue for a bit with no troubles. The HRAP2’s PS2 pcb however doesn’t work at all and I’m not sure what to do now. The power are directly connected as can be seen by the red wire going between each PCB and the ground is connected via the terminal strip with the grounds from the buttons/stick.

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up, any help please??

I believe you can use a micrometer to test which of the pins is +3.3v.

So currently i’m working on a Hori EX2 mod, well the case only, no hori pcb, and eventually i want to dual mod it to work on 360 (just using a cthulhu board first)

I just went by my local hardware store and bought a DPDT Slide switch, that i want to use to switch between xbox and ps3. Is there a good guide to wiring up one of these switches? there are 6 pins on it… i know only 2 wires from each usb cord will connect to it, but how will i arrange said wire strands on the switch?

thanks in advanced

Viewing from the bottom of the DPDT switch. each ‘o’ is a pin.

1 2 3

o o o

o o o

4 5 6

the white wire from the xbox goes to pin1 and the white wire from the ps3 goes to pin3.
the white wire for the single usb cable goes to pin2

the green wire from the xbox goes to pin4 and the green wire from the ps3 goes to pin6.
the green wire for the single usb cable goes to pin 5.

ok, thanks… when i get to that step i’ll be ready for it! i hope… IF i get the step… >_>

I don’t know if anyone has run into this problem, I’m doing a dual setup with a Cthulhu + 08/09 Madcatz 360 pad + Imp board I’ve checked my wiring multiple times and now I’m stuck. The problem I’m having is that when I plug it into my 360 it recognizes fine but when I plug it into a ps3 it says unknown usb device which is the 360 pad so it doesn’t see the cthulhu. Weird thing is that I have the Cthulhu set to default controller on the Imp board yet it always goes to the 360 pad instead also when connected to the 360 the guide button doesn’t work so I’m thinking the problem lies within the Imp board? Hopefully someone knows the answer and if a diagram of my wiring will help I’ll whip one up if needed.

Edit: Alright here’s a diagram of my wiring, today I used a multimeter to check some voltages and noticed that the guide button had nearly zero voltage when not pressed and I don’t see what would cause that unless someone else can see why. Also yes I did connect the two points that say “USB ONLY”.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5363/wiringdiagram.th.jpg

need to see how you have things soldered to the Imp to see if it’s the imp and not a wiring issue…

On the Cthulhu board, did you connect the two points that say “USB ONLY”?

Could someone post a pic or simple diagram of where the resistor goes on the late madcatz 360 pad for the triggers? Thanks.

Simply connecting the points labeled in this picture to the common ground does not work, it’s required to connect them to the outside points for either side to activate them (the inside one deactivates them, but the triggers are already set to neutral). It’s also not as simple as wiring that point to the common ground since that short circuits the pcb.

Advanced circuitry isn’t really my thing so here’s a pic.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/623/360diagram3.jpg

p.s. my dual pcb setup works just fine with the other 6 buttons, just gotta figure out the trigger deal

hey just wanted to say that this actually worked, just bridged the +5V from the Dreamcast to the red cable from the USB :slight_smile:

I have a Agetec Dreamcast PCB and a Madcatz Retro PCB, would it be possible to dual mod these?

nevermind i just found this thread:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=175206
which seems to answer the question, will try this out later today or tomorrow hopefully

Hey all…

Making a dual-pcb (cthulhu + MadCatz360) and would like to forego the imp and dpdt. Is there any reason one couldn’t use a mux to do the switching based on which pcb is providing the line-high? Bear in mind, I intend to only use a single USB cable into the circuit.

Toodles, I know this is right up your alley, and I also realize that with the Imp this may be “conflict of interest” :shy:, but any nudge in the right direction you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Of course - any input is equally appreciated:). Thanks.

V.

You may want this instead.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=197388

will the method with the resistors and diodes work as well or is the inverter chip required?

If the triggers are not going to be wired to a button: Just lock each one in place with a single resistor.
If the triggers will be wired to a button, and the stick ONLY using the 360 pad: doesn’t matter, use whichever method you prefer.
If the triggers will be wired to a button, and the stick will be a dual mod of the 360 pad + other(s):
Use the inverter method.

I’m running into a really strange problem while trying to do a dual mod with a new model madcatz and a cthulu. Basically i’ve run all the cables from the madcatz to the cthulu. I have the +/- data wires from the madcatz going to a dpdt switch, and the +/- data wires from the cthulu going to the other side of the dpdt, and i have the +/- data wires from the madcatz usb cable going to the middle part of the dpdt switch.

now, when i connect the usb cord to my computer it recognizes the madcatz pcb and everything works fine for inputs whether i touch the contacts on the madcatz or the contacts on the cthulu, but when i flip the dpdt switch to the other side it says usb device not recognized. Now the weirdest part is this: it recognizes the madcatz when the switch is on the side that connects to the cthulu, and when i switch it to the otherside it just says usb device not recognized.

If I plug a usb cable directly into the cthulu the comp recognizes it as a cthulu just fine

cool, thanks for the quick feedback

It’s definitely a wiring problem somewhere. Either the wires from the DPDT to the Cthulhu aren’t soldered to the right spots, or the D+/D- got flipped backwards. When the switch is set for cthulhu mode, you should see a direct connection with your multimeter (almost 0 resistance) between the white wire on the outgoing usb cable and any point in the D column. SImilarly, there should be a direct connection between the green wire on the outgoing usb cable and any point in the E column.