Christian s are “enlightened” because they won, they used violence and the end result is that Christianity is the worlds biggest religion if islam was #1 and Christianity #2 how much you want to bet Christians would be using violence. Like shit less than a 3rd of korea is Christian yet Christmas is a holiday talk aboit reach.
All these religions breed these crazy morons and i dont see why people who aren’t religious at all but eat dinner with their fam on a religious holiday consider them self jews/Muslim/Christian. Just distance yourself from the BS.
Islam is the world’s most popular religion tho. Has been for a minute.
Quality over quantity, brah
Islam might be high quality but there is defo more christians running amok surely. In religious wars those who have enough sacrifices will be declared the winner.
For all you guys complaining about Muslims speaking out:
I’ve been reading more about this, and muslim’s who realize their religion needs an 'enlightenment". This is what the general public was asking for.
You had muslim’s playing the blame game for the first few terrorist attacks, but they kept coming. 9/11, Madrid, London, Mumbai, Paris. There had to be a point where muslims themselves start looking at how they can prevent THEIR OWN religion from getting this negative attention. Whining about “oh but Christians/etc have groups like Westboro Baptist Church” doesn’t work, when the crazy Christian groups aren’t mass killing people on a near monthly basis, and forcing their religious beliefs.
The ONLY reason Christianity and Catholicism is allowed to exist today, is because they toned down on their more savage practices, and don’t FORCE their beliefs on the rest of the world.
Islam needs the same enlightenment, or the world itself will have to make those decisions for the Muslim community, for our own safety.
LOL at thinking enligtening Islam is going to somehow erase terrorism, or the mistreatment of each other.
Who is going to direct this enlightenment, and how? Simplifying how christianity has developed over the centuries to be a bit less aggressive to, “we went through our bullshit, so now they need to figure it out”, is comical. There was a lot of death (100+ million easy), murder, stupidity, politicing and greed to get people to not continue to act so irrationally in the name of christian beliefs. To think simply rational believers made it to the forefront and simply changed the world through a few rational words about their belief system, is over simplified at best.
Even still, look at america, and its ridiculous religious political leaders, who if it werent for the fucking constitution, and laws, would gladly condemn homosexuals, keep women in the kitchen, and at the very least not mind segregation.
Who is going to march into some of the most degraded areas in the world that house the majority of muslims, and be like, okay, i know i cannot offer you a better life, food, clean water, a future for yourself or your children, better housing, and many other things which are symptoms to your obsession with your religious text, but please just disregard these certain parts of the Quran as stupid and dumb, and just only focus on the nice parts like us.
People demanding billions of people change, meanwhile they cant even get their stoner cousins to pay rent, stop spending hundreds of dollars a month on dominos pizza, politicians cannot get their worst cities in their states fixed, etc… SHITS LAUGHABLE! In america alone, we cannot, or will not fix our own issues, which similar to muslims in poor areas, are a product of a lack of education, poverty, and harsh environments that mold the mind and heart into something less ideal.
We live in a country where Mitt Romney, a mormon, was running for president. Mormons, you know those people who didnt allow blacks into priesthood until 1978, when he was at the age of 30+. Their bible still has racist ass verses in it. Their own fucking bible IS RACIST, and its an acceptable religion in america. LMFAO.
Most christians live in 1st world, or developing countries at this point, and those that do not, commit atrocities in the name of christianity still. Our christian religious political leaders to this day still lie to us, murder innocents (covered up until someone whistleblows or the freedom of information act reveals the shit),which im sure a majority of shit we still do not know.
People are right that there arent any christian based terrorist groups of a global scale besides punk ass neo nazi’s (who are a super small minority), who go around and kill people in the name of their lord, but to think that youre somehow going to reform Islam even within my lifetime, while convientently ignoring the reasons people even believe in these nonsense religions to begin with, is nothing short of mind fucking.
Just because you dont hooty hoot jesus christ everytime you kill someone, rape them, order drone strikes that kill innoncents, initiate biological and psychological test on unwilling citizens of your own country, murder other cartels for power and position, etc…, doesnt mean a lot of people dont still commit atrocities in the name of their lord in some way shape or form, if not directly. That might be a little to vague for most people here, because emotions like to be handled directly, but quite honestly, quite honestly…
All these fucking religions need a reform at the minimum.
But seriously, who is gonna reform Islam, considering in some places in this world, people still pump fist their ak47’s to the new testament, thinking god hates homosexuals, and women are somehow justifiably second class citizens? The best thing countries can do is to start communicating better with their muslim population, and let them know what is not acceptable under law if there are any rising issues there. From there, you start to address poverty and education in general, regardless of “race”, creed, or religion.
Once your society becomes more educated, less impoverished, and less self conscious about being who they are because of hidden racism/prejudice, you will see an overall higher quality in the people who live there. Its fairly simple.
America, a land where religion and god is all over the fucking place, that i cannot even escape it at a fucking baseball game, and is one of the overall leading countries in the world of its size, is filled with people complaining about muslims living in abject poverty in areas of the world you didnt even know existed, who cannot seem to understand why they would grasp onto their holy book more than life itself at times.
Sorry, that post was a little all over the place, but its like people in here think muslims arent humans or something. Like if i tossed them in similar conditions since birth, in random bum fuck north africa, they would somehow rise to be the next jesus christ, and not likely end up an angry, misguided, uneducated, dickhead themselves, ready to ride or die for stupid shit. Whatever…
That shits fake, but it fits someones agenda at least.
Eh if he allows me to have sex with the cute muslim girl i am all for him
I went and asked the source directly especially for you.
The rest of your post attacks a strawman. Nobody said everything is perfect in the west, but there were huge improvements even in the last 200 years. Compare that to other countries who are still living in the dark ages, only that instead of swords they use automatic rifles.
"but its like people in here think muslims arent humans or something."
Attacking the religion ≠ attacking the people who are born into it.
lol just get feminism to replace Islam the way it has replaced Christianity in the US, and you too can have full access to promiscuous “Muslim” women, resulting in declining marriage rates and a collapsing birth rate!
Word. I thought it was fake considering it had no source but this guy, and still kinda does, but i’ll take his word for it for now since its not that important really. I tend to be very wary of shit like that. As to the rest of your post, you got it man. This thread is draining. 
I wonder why there is never any mention of that Muslim cop who died defending the cartoonists. Guess his life has no value because he was Muslim, and it would get in the way of the Muslim hate to acknowledge his existence and death in the line of duty. I don’t know why Muslims don’t all join ISIS and become terrorists, they get shit on and harassed no matter what they do, even when they die trying to protect others. Might as well fight and have some dignity. There’s what, 1.5B Muslims in the world? If they all banned together, they could probably take over most of it. Certainly topple the West.
Why is this scrub allowed to have so many alternate accounts lol.
Never? If that was the case, you wouldn’t have known about it.
Anyway, he’s been mentioned multiple times on various news outlets (BBC and NPR, from my own recollection).
AAA Jan. 14, 2015 7:52 AM ET
France arrests 54 for defending terror; announces crackdown
By LORI HINNANT, Associated Press THE ASSOCIATED PRESS STATEMENT OF NEWS VALUES AND PRINCIPLES
PARIS (AP) — France ordered prosecutors around the country Wednesday to crack down on hate speech, anti-Semitism and glorifying terrorism, announcing that 54 people had been arrested for those offenses since the Paris terror attacks.
The order came as Charlie Hebdo’s defiant new issue sold out before dawn around Paris, with scuffles at kiosks over dwindling copies of the satirical newspaper fronting the Prophet Muhammad.
Like many European countries, France has strong laws against hate speech and especially anti-Semitism in the wake of the Holocaust. In a message distributed to all French prosecutors and judges, the Justice Ministry laid out the legal basis for rounding up those who defend the Paris terror attacks as well as those responsible for racist or anti-Semitic words or acts.
Among those detained was Dieudonne, a controversial, popular comic with repeated convictions for racism and anti-Semitism.
The attacks that left 17 people dead are prompting France to tighten security measures but none of the 54 people detained have been linked by authorities to the attacks. That is raising questions about whether the government is impinging on the freedom of speech that Charlie Hebdo so vigorously defends.
The core of the irreverent newspaper’s staff perished a week ago when gunmen stormed its offices, killing 12 people. It was the opening salvo of three days of terror and bloodshed in the Paris region, ending when security forces killed all three gunmen on Friday.
A top leader of Yemen’s al-Qaida branch claimed responsibility Wednesday for the Charlie Hebdo attack, saying in a video the massacre was in “vengeance for the prophet.” Charlie Hebdo had received repeated threats previously for posting caricatures of Muhammad and was firebombed in 2011.
Those who survived last week’s massacre worked out of borrowed offices to put out the issue that appeared Wednesday with a print run of 3 million — more than 50 times the usual circulation. Another run was planned, one columnist said.
The Justice Ministry said 54 people — including four minors — have been detained for defending or verbally threatening terrorism since the Charlie Hebdo attack. Several have already been convicted under special measures for immediate sentencing.
The government is also working on new phone-tapping and other intelligence efforts against terrorism that it wants nailed down by next week, government spokesman Stephane Le Foll said Wednesday.
The government is also launching a deeper project to rethink education, urban policies and its integration model, in an apparent recognition that the attacks exposed deeper problems of inequality both in France and especially at its neglected, often violence-ridden suburban housing projects.
French police say as many as six members of a terrorist cell that carried out the Paris attacks on Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket may still be at large, including a man seen driving a car registered to the widow of one of the gunmen. The country has deployed 10,000 troops to protect sensitive sites, including Jewish schools and synagogues, mosques and travel hubs.
Dieudonne, a comic who popularized an arm gesture that resembles a Nazi salute and who has been convicted repeatedly of racism and anti-Semitism, is no stranger to controversy. His provocative performances were banned last year but he has a core following among many of France’s disaffected young people.
The Facebook post in question, which was swiftly deleted, said he felt like “Charlie Coulibaly” — merging the names of Charlie Hebdo and Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman who seized a kosher market and killed four hostages, along with a policewoman.
In a separate post Monday afternoon, the day the investigation was opened into Dieudonne, the comic wrote an open letter to France’s interior minister.
“Whenever I speak, you do not try to understand what I’m trying to say, you do not want to listen to me. You are looking for a pretext to forbid me. You consider me like Amedy Coulibaly when I am not any different from Charlie,” he wrote.
In a posthumous video, Coulibaly had claimed allegiance to the Islamic State group. Brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi, who stormed Charlie Hebdo, had told survivors they were sent by al-Qaida in Yemen.
In an 11-minute video on Wednesday, Nasr al-Ansi, a top commander of Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP as the branch is known, says Yemen’s al-Qaida branch “chose the target, laid out the plan and financed the operation.”
Solidarity for Charlie Hebdo, although not uniform, was widespread in France and abroad. Defending his caricature of Muhammad on the cover, Charlie Hebdo cartoonist Renald Luzier, also known as Luz, argued that no exceptions should be made when it comes to freedom of expression.
He said that when Charlie Hebdo drew threats and attacks in the past, the reaction was often: “Yes, but you shouldn’t do that (publish cartoons of Muhammad). Yes, but you deserved that.”
“There should be no more 'yes, but,” he insisted.
On Wednesday, the new issue vanished from kiosks immediately. Some newsstand operators said they expected more copies to arrive Thursday. One kiosk near the Champs Elysees, open at 6 a.m., was sold out by 6:05. Another, near Saint-Lazare, reported fisticuffs among customers.
“Distributing Charlie Hebdo, it warms my heart because we say to ourselves that he is still here, he’s never left,” said Jean-Baptiste Saidi, a van driver delivering copies well before dawn on Wednesday.
French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve was among those to get a copy before they sold out.
“I rediscovered their liberty of tone,” he told France-Inter radio, describing the issue as one of “tender impertinence.”
French Prime Minister Manuel Valls prominently displayed a copy of the paper as he left a Cabinet meeting, but his hand carefully covered Muhammad’s face.
Sunday : everybody walk in Paris for freedom of speech.
Wednesday : Dieudonné (French humorist, a pretty provocative one who always have problems because of that) tweets “Je suis Charlie Coulibaly” police comes to take him.
EDIT: Even worse, the tweet was “I feel Charlie Coulibaly”, he says that he tweeted that because he feels like a public enemy when all he wants is to make people laugh, stating that he’s no different from Charlie.
Isn’t this the guy that said that ISIS beheadings imply they are on the way to be a modern civilization or some BS?
Everyone is so gung ho on seeming not racist that they will side with criminals of other nations. Lets see all of those local people in the middle east they kill on a daily basis agree with these dumbass hipsters. I swear to god sometimes. I don’t even believe in the nigga