I was right across the street at work in a connected hospital back in 2012 when a psychiatric patient shot up the Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic of Pittsburgh. Guy wouldn’t even have had to step outside to get to me. Eight people shot, two killed. Guy had seen 17 different doctors in the months before he shot the place up, can’t say he didn’t have access.
Obviously a lot of people really don’t have access to the help they need, but that’s actually kind of a red herring in the gun debate. The fact is that America has enshrined the right of its citizens to not have to improvise weapons in the event that they snap and want to maximize the number of other people they harm or kill, and nothing is going to change. We’re exactly one cynical dose of reality away from replacing the “gun control” conversation with the “what’s it going to take to break this guy’s record” conversation.
Just an update on the person I knew who was shot, she is doing good and seems to be stabilized but still in critical condition. She was hit 3 times. Once in the back, which hit her Liver. Once in the Jaw, which shattered it. Once in the thumb, which was fairly minor all things considering. Her husband was shot in the wrist too I believe but is fine. They were having a hard time stopping the bleeding in her jaw, but seem to finally have gotten it under control, and should be able to do the jaw surgery within 24 hours to start that healing process (which will probably take a year or so if I heard right). Sure sounds like she’s going to survive at least, which is good for her 3 kids at the very least. Crazy.
What really surprises me, is that at that long distance, he was able to hit her with 3 bullets. I’d read that he might have been using a modified stock to turn it into what is basically automatic fire, but it seems unlikely he’d be able to hit her 3 times so accurately. Even the handcrank device theorized seems like it’d cause the bullets to not be so accurate. But it sure seems like he managed to hit her with 3 bullets. (Also, information is like third hand so it could be wrong, for all I know she was shot and fell and shattered her jaw instead of being shot in it, but that’s not what I’ve heard so who knows).
I “like” that I brought up stricter gun controls and loophole closings after reading about this yesterday and a co-worker tried to stop me with “You can’t just ban all guns” to which I replied “I didn’t say that or even come close to alluding to that.”
He just stuttered then tried to talk about “if someone wants a gun they can get one”. Dude sounds like a post from @Wasted , lol. I told him that doesn’t mean anyone shouldn’t be able to buy it without strict background checks and waiting periods. He just dropped it after that.
People having to go to the black market to get this type of weaponry make it more obvious than any Joe Schmoe walking in and buying one.
Republican senator for South Carolina was trying to pass a bill allowing suppressors on AR "for hunting reasons " before this. GOP being watched like a hawk now.
Looks like Stephen Paddock’s girl Marilou probably extorted him before shooting up the concert (in addition to being married to two men at the same time and having two social security numbers)
This is a very important point here. When a society decides to label these kind of events as a way of life or “things happen” there is a lot to reflect upon about said society…
How was a guy that fucked up in the head able to get a gun? Someone dropped the ball there and should be held accountable. Still, the fact remains, when people feel disconnected from society, life, institutions, and have nowhere and no one to turn to (in their own minds anyway) that pushes them towards stuff like this. Can we at least agree on that? Sure, there will be crazy people that get guns here and there, but the more sound of mind people are, the less you’ll have folks considering these types of actions.
The fact that we’re just kind of like kanyeshrug “Another mass shooting…” is a serious problem. Like, we’re desensitized to the point of it almost being a normal everyday thing.
Thats not what I asked. I asked about the loopholes (not just the single “gun show loophole”) concerning the various products you mentioned and some examples.
Especially when 2 of the 4 things you mentioned are insanely regulated up the ass. Example, “What loophole exists to get ahold of a suppressor without the government knowing?”
This wasn’t about Paddock, this was about another guy Reticently had brought up that apparently had been to see SEVENTEEN doctors :wtf: That’s the guy I’m wondering how he got ahold of a gun.
Crazy video with a slow escalation. Shows everything calm when she was right under the shooter yet hearing guns fire.
@ Wasted the both sides comment came from my ending lunch break and having to type fast. Seemed like you were calling @ White Shadow’s post about the country singer star.