10/01/2017 Las Vegas Strip Shooting

General Discussion
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Cops can’t be everywhere. Nobody is installing bollards around markets or on bridges, generally speaking.

There is always a potential victim base, whenever you’re outside your home, regardless of whether you use a firearm or vehicle.

It really is that easy. Besides, most “mass shootings” result in 1 or zero people killed:

Not in corridors, no. But there’d be no problem driving onto a school oval or around a bigger open campus, etc.

Knives don’t need real competency. Point goes in person, repeat ad nauseum. People die from single stabs as well as single gunshots, it all depends on where you hit.

Cars work great in the middle of Melbourne, though. And in Nice, London Bridge, etc.

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What’s with the crazy old white dudes taking our Asian women from us? LOL!

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everyone’s focusing on the firearms cause its easy.
but lets keep in mind that the biggest issue here is that
people who have, mental problems, or just pent up rage…dont let it out by talking to someone like they should.

the reality is.
we should ALL be seeing therapists and talking about our inner demons and releasing our pent up angst.

something irked this guy.
something bugged him.
he shouldve just…let it out. instead of penting it up till it exploded like krakatoa.
am i wrong here?

theres alot of people injured or dead that really wished he had…talked to someone about the turmoil inside his soul.
even if its not a pro like a therapist or psychiatrist…but someone. even his brother.

like his brother said,. his last text message he received from him showed no sign of angst.
he couldve called his brother and told him his issues.
he didnt.
we live in a world where we are taught to keep our problems, issues, angst, and inner turmoils to ourselves.

from personal experience…
it feels great to get things off one’s chest.
swear to god.
it feels relieving.

keeping things always inside and having things that cause your soul to be in turmoil…is as harmful as sewing your own asshole shut.
they call shitting…relieving one’s self with good reason. cuz it is. it is relieving to release what needs to come from inside you, out.
no difference.
dont keep shit inside.
let it out.
find family, friends, co workers, people who’s job it is to listen, like therapists, psychiatrists, and psychologists…
and talk.
let it out.
you’ll feel better.

but society.
in this world.
people are shunned into silence. theyre afraid to open up. and talk about their problems, issues, and angst.

let it out, you’ll feel better.
youll feel relieved. it helps. never hurts.

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Worst mass shooting in your country, ever?

Not in Best Korea

meme made before yesterday it looks like, found it before today/yesterday too.

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It wasn’t a mental issue until the dude with the vast stockpile of weapons murdered a crowd of defenseless people.

Like what is easier to institute and less intrusive?

A constant monitering of peoples mental health, making sure they don’t show the signs of commiting mass murder or keeping track of existing weapons and weapons that will manufactered in the future?

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Real talk. In the long run this will hurt Las Vegas and The Strip financially.

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Idiots would rather this world turn into Minority Report or Psycho-Pass than to do the simple thing and keep track of firearms better and make them harder to get a hold of.

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The people who want “gun control” is not about the guns. It’s about the control over citizens.

Then you have idiots talking about the concealed and not concealed carrying citizens couldn’t do anything to prevent this massacre. No shit, Sherlock! If a trained sniper was trying to see where those shots came from, he or she would not be able to shoot back because he or she may shoot innocent civilians. The shooter had the better position, the high ground, the advantage. Everyone else didn’t have a chance in hell!

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Thats what the Hughes Amendment was for in the first place. The ATF and local law enforcement are all supposed to know who has fully automatic weapons throughout the country

But all that tracking and registration didnt help, since he just modded a semi-auto rifle instead.

As I understand, the mod kits are just as restricted as the full auto rifles themselves.

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Actually, from experience (military and such), you don’t need a kit to mod an M4 carbine (semiautomatic weapon). You can MacGyver that shit with common household items that anyone can do. Since the AR15 is similar to an M4, I believe it can also be MacGyvered.

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Thought this story was interesting:

**Guitarist Caleb Keeter changes mind on gun control after Las Vegas shooting
**

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJH9taVAAEHu2L?format=jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJH9uGU8AASgAJ?format=jpg

Their smart decision probably prevented even more panic and mayhem that day, not to mention saved their own lives.

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I don’t find it interesting. A concealed handgun isn’t meant, or is going to stop you from a sniper.

I’ll chalk it up to grief, which would be completely fucking understandable.

>Get sniped
>Give up your handgun

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Do you think when the shooting started that anyone realized that they were being pinned down from a high rise hotel? I’m sure most people assume it was someone on foot. If Calab and his band were walking around trying to find the shooter(s) they would’ve likely been capped by either the police or the shooter… Maybe even jumped by the confused crowd.

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I love how the very idea that stricter gun laws can’t in any way prevent gun violence. Nevermind that it has in several other nations, the most recent example probably being Australia, where we’ve seen the amount of fatal shootings decrease drastically after imposing gun control.

Like, I kind of get the argument of “if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns” but it only works in theory when you consider that 1) very few people are saying “ban all guns forever” in the US, and 2) while it’s true the fucking hardcore murderers will always have guns, if guns are harder to come by the likelihood of Jerome McRandom crackfiend having an automatic in his pants probably decreases by quite a lot. Nevermind the irony of many of the same people who don’t want gun control laws are the same people who are baying for stricter laws against drugs and the like. So apparently you can legally prevent people from getting high, but not shooting people. Go figure.

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I like how none of that said anything about giving up handguns or banning guns. It simply said guns need to be controlled…smfh

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Probably not. They followed what I assume is their training, as well as their instinct. Even if it WAS a dude on foot, drawing in the middle of a rampaging crowd still wouldn’t be the right call until they could find the shooter.

As I said, I’m chalking his post up to grief and shock. They were in the middle of the biggest mass shooting in US history - that’s unfathomable to process.

TL;DR - Their guns were useless in this scenario, but may not be next time. For every person caught in a situation like this, how many others use concealed firearms to protect themselves, whether they fire or not?

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We just making up shit to argue about now. What is this? The american government thread?

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But yet, it had no real effect on the murder rate. We shot less, but stabbed, bashed and burned each other instead.

By making this argument, it makes you look like all you care about are shootings, not murders as a whole. Our murder rate was already declining, and continued to do so at basically the same rate. Violent crime SPIKED for a decade after the gun bans (96-06), because people knew that there were less guns.

Except you just quoted Australia, where it works in practice. We can’t own firearms (or any other item) for personal protection, therefore the only people using them against other people are the criminals.

And in the blue moon situation, where you DO need to grab your gun:

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/4927063/border-farmer-has-guns-taken-after-confronting-man-armed-with-a-knife-at-his-home/?cs=11

If Jerome McRandom crackfiend has an automatic, you can be basically guaranteed it’s an illegal weapon in the first place. Meaning your law changes did absolutely nothing. I have no problem with new laws, but the only ones I ever hear of pretty much ARE “ban all guns”. On top of that, nobody puts forward any plans on how to confiscate the weapons that would be made illegal under their changes.

Yes that makes no real sense to me either.

I think I made an assumption there, given his sentiment about his weapons being useless. My bad.

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Some of the victims identities.